Game thread 6/21/22. Cubs vs Pirates

[2drfischer@gmail.c]

012720353C30273139520 wrote: It is good to read some positive posts regarding the Pirates, and the current Baseball Ops. Group. I have had a lot of confidence in the team BC has put together. I know we still have Bob Nutting to deal with,  but I still believe Ben Cherington with his baseball resume would have not taken this job without getting some assurances from the Front Office.


Agree completely, except for the part about BC getting assurances.  He may very well have gotten that from Nutting but, until he actually does it, I don't expect Nutting to put his money where his mouth is. 



He said on several occasions that he'd do what was necessary when the time was right, that the money saved in the early years of Huntington's regime would be spent when the club was ready to compete.  That money's still in the bank.  He had his chance in 2015 and after but he sat on his hands.  I don't trust him and I doubt I ever will.


Hayes didn't move your trust just a bit? I want to see more, but remember, even the big market teams couldn't keep everyone. To this day I still can't believe Mookie Betts was traded. My concern is they will up the ante on some players, but if others end up leaving or getting traded, the same old comments will be made. Of course, I want to actually see this happen!



Most of all, let's hope anyone they extend plays to expectations, Polanco was an anchor.


Regarding the extension for Hayes, not really.  Nutting has kept a very low payroll for several seasons now.  He may have been getting suggestions, or even pressure, from other owners to make a signing like the one with Hayes to show the Players Union and the fans that he's not just hoarding money.  While it's a hefty contract for Nutting, it certainly wasn't compared to contracts handed out by almost every other club to date, including franchises like Cinci and Milwaukee. 



I don't think I'll ever trust Nutting.  He's given no reason to.

[2drfischer@gmail.c]

44616262775C61696B7C0E0 wrote: Watching video this morning of Madris's HR was interesting for the reaction it got from the new guys who've joined him in Pittsburgh.  They all seemed genuinely excited and happy for him, more so than I expected.



It seems like these guys are really supportive of each other.  It makes me think that BC and his minor league staff have created a great atmosphere.  That's why I think when each player suffers through the inevitable failures all major league players face, each will have great support, which will help them face it more successfully. 



I'm far more excited by the possibilities these young guys bring than I was before the season began.


Very astute observation Doc

Agree 100%


Now, if I could ever hear those words from my wife.

[WildwoodDave2]

183E392C25293E28204B0 wrote: Going to bow out for a while.  Been unreasonably busy on a new role. 



Nice to see the Bucs doing so well in recent games.  Hope they maintain it.



As the division is, a better start might have made an even bigger difference.  Time's the enemy.  Make it a friend!
The start was fine. The 9 game losing streak put them where they are. Nice passive aggressive dig though. I get it they have improved so your goalposts move again. Just can't give any credit.
I believe you chased him away!