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Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:51 pm
by Doc
Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:48 pm
The Pirates had a chance to impress a sellout crowd. Instead, the crowd saw Skenes lose, the Pirates fail to score, Cruz unhustle a double into a single, Canario make a throw from centerfield that barely got past the infield dirt, and Valdez attempting a needless triple to start the ninth inning trailing by three runs, resulting in a needless out. I don’t think the crowd was impressed with what they saw today. Maybe that’s why they were chanting “sell the team.”
The organization is building a legacy of not being able to do anything right.
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:52 pm
by Doc
Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:49 pm
Doc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:46 pm
Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:41 pm
Bizarre play. Valdez leads off the ninth with a triple. Safe on a close play at third. Takes his hand off the base to ask the umpire for time and gets tagged while his hand is asking for time. Umpire calls him out.
Well, at least he didn’t slide into third with his phone spilling out of his pocket. They’re getting better, Bobster, they’re getting better.
I think if the Guardians third baseman had been eating sunflower seeds during the play, Valdez might have been safe.
HAHA! Why is it always us who does the whacky, inexcusable stuff?
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:55 pm
by Wildwoodcoach
Saw the play Bobster. He shouldn't have gone to third. He shouldn't
have been called out. Regardless, when you have Skeenes pitching against
at best an average pitcher, you should win the game
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:58 pm
by Wildwoodcoach
Doc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:51 pm
Bobster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:48 pm
The Pirates had a chance to impress a sellout crowd. Instead, the crowd saw Skenes lose, the Pirates fail to score, Cruz unhustle a double into a single, Canario make a throw from centerfield that barely got past the infield dirt, and Valdez attempting a needless triple to start the ninth inning trailing by three runs, resulting in a needless out. I don’t think the crowd was impressed with what they saw today. Maybe that’s why they were chanting “sell the team.”
The organization is building a legacy of not being able to do anything right.

Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:05 pm
by Bobster
Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:55 pm
Saw the play Bobster. He shouldn't have gone to third. He shouldn't
have been called out. Regardless, when you have Skeenes pitching against
at best an average pitcher, you should win the game
Agree on both counts. The play at third was very close, and he should never have attempted it. That said, the umpire should have granted him time when he requested it instead of letting the player tag him out for requesting time.
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:23 am
by JollyRoger8
Actually this game completely changed on one pitch. Guardians were leading only 1-0 bottom of the 6th. Cruz on third, Reynolds on first nobody out. Hayes has worked a full count. The umpire rings up Hayes on a pitch that was easily a foot outside! You cannot be that bad ump!!!!!! We would have had the bases loaded with no outs. The next batter Valdez walked which would have brought in the tying run still with no outs. Even if Pham hits into a DP the go ahead run would have scored. The whole game changed on that one pitch. I’m extremely pissed that what should have been a Pirate victory was taken away from us.
The only positive after that loss is that Valdez has been crushing the ball the past few games.
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:25 am
by bucs607179
MLB has the "Madoza Line", maybe they should have the "Bucco Line" for under .150. Go Tommy Pham.
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:28 pm
by Bobster
JollyRoger8 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:23 am
Actually this game completely changed on one pitch. Guardians were leading only 1-0 bottom of the 6th. Cruz on third, Reynolds on first nobody out. Hayes has worked a full count. The umpire rings up Hayes on a pitch that was easily a foot outside! You cannot be that bad ump!!!!!! We would have had the bases loaded with no outs. The next batter Valdez walked which would have brought in the tying run still with no outs. Even if Pham hits into a DP the go ahead run would have scored. The whole game changed on that one pitch. I’m extremely pissed that what should have been a Pirate victory was taken away from us.
The only positive after that loss is that Valdez has been crushing the ball the past few games.
We’ll never know how differently events might’ve played out if the ump hadn’t prevented the Pirates from having bases loaded and no outs. The pitch selection might’ve been different to Valdez and or Pham. There’s a good chance it might have been a big inning. In any event, that bad call completely changed that inning and the game.
Re: Official Game Lineup - 4/19 - Bucs vs Gards
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:29 pm
by Bobster
bucs607179 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:25 am
MLB has the "Madoza Line", maybe they should have the "Bucco Line" for under .150. Go Tommy Pham.
The Mendoza line might be a height too great for many Pirates to aspire to.