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Doc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:37 pm

Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:33 pm Agreed. I see no realistic chance that Skenes remains a Pirate when he could choose to go elsewhere. But understanding that, Cherington has to maximize the team's potential during the years they have Skenes. Since they drifted mostly HS kids, the system is not going to be providing the hitting help they need in time. Cherington has to acquire hitters and Nutting has to pay them. I know that's an unlikely scenario but that's the only way they can become serious contenders during Skenes' tenure with the club. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that happening. Nutting may be happy just to have Skenes as a drawing card and keep the team in the WC hunt each year.

The safest thing to do is keep the team contending for a Wildcard spot. Few can complain if the team is competitive in that way and, at the same time, it means he’s not spending excessively. Connie Mack figured that out a long time ago: build the club so that it could finish in the upper half of the standings to keep the fans interested, but not so good that he’d have to reward the players with decent raises. Mack wrote the book. Nutting keeps rereading it.

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:53 am

Doc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:37 pm

Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:33 pm Agreed. I see no realistic chance that Skenes remains a Pirate when he could choose to go elsewhere. But understanding that, Cherington has to maximize the team's potential during the years they have Skenes. Since they drifted mostly HS kids, the system is not going to be providing the hitting help they need in time. Cherington has to acquire hitters and Nutting has to pay them. I know that's an unlikely scenario but that's the only way they can become serious contenders during Skenes' tenure with the club. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that happening. Nutting may be happy just to have Skenes as a drawing card and keep the team in the WC hunt each year.

The safest thing to do is keep the team contending for a Wildcard spot. Few can complain if the team is competitive in that way and, at the same time, it means he’s not spending excessively. Connie Mack figured that out a long time ago: build the club so that it could finish in the upper half of the standings to keep the fans interested, but not so good that he’d have to reward the players with decent raises. Mack wrote the book. Nutting keeps rereading it.

Knowing how MLB works I'd be very happy if we could just stay in the competitive range. Heck, now I hope and root for 81 wins.

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:53 am

Doc wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:37 pm

Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:33 pm Agreed. I see no realistic chance that Skenes remains a Pirate when he could choose to go elsewhere. But understanding that, Cherington has to maximize the team's potential during the years they have Skenes. Since they drifted mostly HS kids, the system is not going to be providing the hitting help they need in time. Cherington has to acquire hitters and Nutting has to pay them. I know that's an unlikely scenario but that's the only way they can become serious contenders during Skenes' tenure with the club. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that happening. Nutting may be happy just to have Skenes as a drawing card and keep the team in the WC hunt each year.

The safest thing to do is keep the team contending for a Wildcard spot. Few can complain if the team is competitive in that way and, at the same time, it means he’s not spending excessively. Connie Mack figured that out a long time ago: build the club so that it could finish in the upper half of the standings to keep the fans interested, but not so good that he’d have to reward the players with decent raises. Mack wrote the book. Nutting keeps rereading it.

Knowing how MLB works I'd be very happy if we could just stay in the competitive range. Heck, now I hope and root for 81 wins.

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:01 pm The rest are TBD.

3pirates3 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:17 pm

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:01 pm The rest are TBD.

https://x.com/_NoahHiles/status/1814022805027004431

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:40 pm I'm 100% sure I'm wrong about this. Paul Skenes isn't pitching against the Phillies because PNC will be sold out. Save him for a mid week game so PNC can have another sell out.

IMO Pirates should use our best against the best teams if available. Maybe their is a reason I don't know about??

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:40 pm I'm 100% sure I'm wrong about this. Paul Skenes isn't pitching against the Phillies because PNC will be sold out. Save him for a mid week game so PNC can have another sell out.

IMO Pirates should use our best against the best teams if available. Maybe their is a reason I don't know about??

Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:42 pm

bucs607179 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:40 pm I'm 100% sure I'm wrong about this. Paul Skenes isn't pitching against the Phillies because PNC will be sold out. Save him for a mid week game so PNC can have another sell out.

IMO Pirates should use our best against the best teams if available. Maybe their is a reason I don't know about??

Cherington may be punting (wouldn't be the first time) on the Phillies series. Skenes and Keller are being held back for the St.L. series with the Cards a little ahead of the Bucs in the WC race.