Great article on Skenes. He was once an Air Force cadet. As a Navy man I won't hold it against him.
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Navy? In Navy boot camp, they have a new qualification test, that measures critical thinking, and fine motor skills. They have to complete a jigsaw puzzle within three weeks. So far, everyone has passed, though the fastest anyone has done it is in 2 weeks and 4 days.bucs607179 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 5:32 pm If anyone gets a chance you may enjoy the sport section of USA Today, 5/20.
Great article on Skenes. He was once an Air Force cadet. As a Navy man I won't hold it against him.![]()
That was funny once I got it. I'd have never made it today. I HATE jigsaw puzzles.Surgnbuck wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 11:34 pmNavy? In Navy boot camp, they have a new qualification test, that measures critical thinking, and fine motor skills. They have to complete a jigsaw puzzle within three weeks. So far, everyone has passed, though the fastest anyone has done it is in 2 weeks and 4 days.bucs607179 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2024 5:32 pm If anyone gets a chance you may enjoy the sport section of USA Today, 5/20.
Great article on Skenes. He was once an Air Force cadet. As a Navy man I won't hold it against him.![]()
The Navy takes exceptional pride in this, because the top of the box says, "2-4 years".
Nice sentiment, but Skenes would be nuts to take such an offer, and his agent would be doing him a tremendous disservice to advise him to do so. Instead, if he simply plays for the minimum for his first three years, and he remains the pitcher he’s been thus far, he’ll earn between $35-$50 million over his three arbitration years. Then, in his seventh year, when he hits free agency, he may well get a $300 million deal from a real major league team. If he took the Pirates deal you suggest, he’d still have two years with the Pirates, playing under that $80 million contract.fjk090852-7 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:47 am Paul Skenes is a very special pitcher, and while watching the game tonight I thought the Pirates should approach him this offseason with a fair contract offer. Make him a proposal that would pay him much more than what he would receive during those first years when the team holds the salary rights. Include in the proposal the following 3 years when he is eligible for arbitration. Something like eighty million over six years. A contract such as that would give him much more money over the first three years than he would receive if the Pirates were just renewing his contract those first 3 years.
Maybe my suggestion is confusing. the 80 million covers every year up to free agency. He gets much more money those first three years than he would get under the current Labor Agreement.Doc wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:41 amNice sentiment, but Skenes would be nuts to take such an offer, and his agent would be doing him a tremendous disservice to advise him to do so. Instead, if he simply plays for the minimum for his first three years, and he remains the pitcher he’s been thus far, he’ll earn between $35-$50 million over his three arbitration years. Then, in his seventh year, when he hits free agency, he may well get a $300 million deal from a real major league team. If he took the Pirates deal you suggest, he’d still have two years with the Pirates, playing under that $80 million contract.fjk090852-7 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:47 am Paul Skenes is a very special pitcher, and while watching the game tonight I thought the Pirates should approach him this offseason with a fair contract offer. Make him a proposal that would pay him much more than what he would receive during those first years when the team holds the salary rights. Include in the proposal the following 3 years when he is eligible for arbitration. Something like eighty million over six years. A contract such as that would give him much more money over the first three years than he would receive if the Pirates were just renewing his contract those first 3 years.
Your suggestion wasn't confusing. You explained that Skenes would make $80 million over six years, beginning next year, a total of seven years. If he were to be paid under my scenario, he would earn around $2.5 million during his first three years, between $35-50 million over the next three, and then receive a $300 million deal in his seventh year. If that $300 million deal was to be for seven years, he'd earn over $40 million in the first year alone. That would mean instead of earning $80 million from the Pirates during his first seven years, he could earn north of $90 million by waiting until he hits free agency.fjk090852-7 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:18 amMaybe my suggestion is confusing. the 80 million covers every year up to free agency. He gets much more money those first three years than he would get under the current Labor Agreement.Doc wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:41 amNice sentiment, but Skenes would be nuts to take such an offer, and his agent would be doing him a tremendous disservice to advise him to do so. Instead, if he simply plays for the minimum for his first three years, and he remains the pitcher he’s been thus far, he’ll earn between $35-$50 million over his three arbitration years. Then, in his seventh year, when he hits free agency, he may well get a $300 million deal from a real major league team. If he took the Pirates deal you suggest, he’d still have two years with the Pirates, playing under that $80 million contract.fjk090852-7 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:47 am Paul Skenes is a very special pitcher, and while watching the game tonight I thought the Pirates should approach him this offseason with a fair contract offer. Make him a proposal that would pay him much more than what he would receive during those first years when the team holds the salary rights. Include in the proposal the following 3 years when he is eligible for arbitration. Something like eighty million over six years. A contract such as that would give him much more money over the first three years than he would receive if the Pirates were just renewing his contract those first 3 years.
Unless I'm misreading it, it doesn't look like your suggestion buys out any free agency years. If that's the case, then it's just a matter of paying him enough when the team has complete salary control to make it worth Skenes' while to forego arbitration. And the Pirates would probably have to pay him so much in those first couple years that they might not save money by buying out his arb years.fjk090852-7 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:18 amMaybe my suggestion is confusing. the 80 million covers every year up to free agency. He gets much more money those first three years than he would get under the current Labor Agreement.Doc wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:41 amNice sentiment, but Skenes would be nuts to take such an offer, and his agent would be doing him a tremendous disservice to advise him to do so. Instead, if he simply plays for the minimum for his first three years, and he remains the pitcher he’s been thus far, he’ll earn between $35-$50 million over his three arbitration years. Then, in his seventh year, when he hits free agency, he may well get a $300 million deal from a real major league team. If he took the Pirates deal you suggest, he’d still have two years with the Pirates, playing under that $80 million contract.fjk090852-7 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:47 am Paul Skenes is a very special pitcher, and while watching the game tonight I thought the Pirates should approach him this offseason with a fair contract offer. Make him a proposal that would pay him much more than what he would receive during those first years when the team holds the salary rights. Include in the proposal the following 3 years when he is eligible for arbitration. Something like eighty million over six years. A contract such as that would give him much more money over the first three years than he would receive if the Pirates were just renewing his contract those first 3 years.