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Who would be a good pickup to Play 3rd if Kang fails

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:07 pm
by dogknot17@yahoo.co
080003342207202F410 wrote: IABucFan, I think you are looking at it all wrong.



If Kang comes back, he is the starter.  That doesn't mean they will have $13 million tied up at 3B because Rodriguez and Freese will also play other positions.  Rodriguez would probably be the back up SS, 2B and an outfield option.  Rodriguez and Freese might both back up 1B too.



Even if you want to tie players together per position, tie Rodriguez and Bell together.  Now 1B is under $5 million.



The Pirates want Kang back.  Period.  They need Kang back too.


Dog, if that's the case, then the situation is even more idiotic, because they are paying $5.75 million to Rodriguez to be a super-sub. Let's hypothetically say that Kang does come back. Who's the odd man out? Osuna? Frazier? Could either one not replicate the production that Rodriguez will offer for far less cost? Could his salary then not be allocated to another position of need?



The point is that the Pirates consistently cry poverty, but consistently throw money away. It's like they're content to sign a vet to sit on the bench, but not start. Seems to me that is a silly way to allocate funds and failing to focus on proper priorities.


I don't know why they brought in Rodriguez. I was hoping he was the 4th outfielder that was needed since no one else could field the position. His price does seem high for that role, but only for the Pirates.



People blame money and then they don't like it when they actually spend it or over pay for someone. I agree that Rodriguez money could be spent elsewhere, but I feel it is more of a talent evaluation than the actual dollar amount.



If you put Rodriguez down as an outfielder, short stop or first baseman, then those positions don't seem "over priced" by Pirates standards. If you him down as a 3B, then it seems like an over pay. I am looking at it as a whole, not breaking it down by position. I just want Rodriguez to be good as he was in 2016. If that happens, no one will care a thing about his contract.

Who would be a good pickup to Play 3rd if Kang fails

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:14 pm
by SammyKhalifa
7D7576415772555A340 wrote: IABucFan, I think you are looking at it all wrong.



If Kang comes back, he is the starter.  That doesn't mean they will have $13 million tied up at 3B because Rodriguez and Freese will also play other positions.  Rodriguez would probably be the back up SS, 2B and an outfield option.  Rodriguez and Freese might both back up 1B too.



Even if you want to tie players together per position, tie Rodriguez and Bell together.  Now 1B is under $5 million.



The Pirates want Kang back.  Period.  They need Kang back too.


Dog, if that's the case, then the situation is even more idiotic, because they are paying $5.75 million to Rodriguez to be a super-sub. Let's hypothetically say that Kang does come back. Who's the odd man out? Osuna? Frazier? Could either one not replicate the production that Rodriguez will offer for far less cost? Could his salary then not be allocated to another position of need?



The point is that the Pirates consistently cry poverty, but consistently throw money away. It's like they're content to sign a vet to sit on the bench, but not start. Seems to me that is a silly way to allocate funds and failing to focus on proper priorities.


He was brought in to be a UT guy. 



We can complain about him being brought in to sit on the bench if we like.  But fans didn't believe so back in '15 and early '16 when he came in nearly every game because he was "on scholarship" and "Hurdle's Favorite."



If he hits well that's a good move for the team. If he's like last year then not so much. And if he is the everyday 3B that's even worse.

Who would be a good pickup to Play 3rd if Kang fails

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:20 pm
by dmetz
Nobody should care about Rodriguez's contract. 5.7 is bench money.



I care if he's in a starting platoon, which I think is going to happen. One of the reasons NH gave for acquiring him was the 3b situation.



Wrong answer Neal. As usual.

Who would be a good pickup to Play 3rd if Kang fails

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:31 pm
by dogknot17@yahoo.co
333A32232D570 wrote: Nobody should care about Rodriguez's contract.   5.7 is bench money.   



I care if he's in a starting platoon, which I think is going to happen.  One of the reasons NH gave for acquiring him was the 3b situation.



Wrong answer Neal.  As usual.


I agree. I want 2016 version to show up for the bench. Not starting at 3B majority of the time.



I still didn't understand why Osuna didn't get some game time at 3B in 2017. I also would rather play Frazier than Rodriguez. Two big question marks in Osuna and Frazier as starters, but we know what Rodriguez and Freese can do.