5259515D5859420701764F575E5959185559360 wrote: They don't need good luck, they need a third baseman and some bullpen experience.
LOL. Being able to add that and keep the payroll under $100M is where the good luck comes in, my friend. The only way to succeed with that low a payroll is for a few long-shots or cheap options to outperform their pay.
Mike Moustakas's stock is dropping. I know he is a Boras guy, but he could help the Pirates now on a two year deal. If Huntington acknowledges the window, this would be a fine signing. Would Moustakas get a better two year deal compared to a five year deal? With a nice short porch in RF? I don't know, but I hope it is being explored.
LOL ... Moustakas won't even consider coming here. I really think you need to acknowledge some things like reality. He has played in a small market situation in KC; won a title too boot. He is looking for a pay day and another chance to win a title. That doesn't happen here.
You act like the Pirates have never signed a free agent. Well, they have. Every single team signs free agents. Every single one, like even the bad teams. Money and opportunity sells.
Moustakas isn't getting any offers yet. The reasons I stated are why he could consider Pittsburgh. If he thinks the Pirates are on the verge of competing again, then he could sign just like the others. The major markets have third baseman unless someone is moved.
Since he would never consider Pittsburgh and that is a huge joke, where do you think he will sign and why?
Name me the most significant free agent pickup we have netted in the last two decades. They sign free agents. Mustaches doesn't fit the mold of a free agent Pittsburgh gets. People who are honest with themselves and understand/watch the motions of our GM know this. It's time you stop thinking a relevant player, coming off a career year (.272, 38 bombs, 85 RBI) and is in his prime would consider Pittsburgh.
From what I saw, his salary was 5.6 Million in 2017. I suspect he is looking for a significant raise and deserves one. Quite a few teams are looking for 3B men. Remember, this is an organization that decided to waive its second best reliever instead of trade him to save 600K. This is an organization that is looking to move its most valuable and versatile player (don't confuse the statement with best) because the 10.3 is too much. This is an organization that didn't reinvest any money into the organization after dispatching losses over the last few years; the suspension of Marte (nothing put back in for the wages it got back) or Kang not being allowed in the country.
We stand the same chance trading for Manny Machado as we do signing Moustakas.
Most people with a brain know we aren't really close to being competitive relative to a play-off spot. With what the Cubs and Cards have done, there is a big separation and right now, the Brewers are better. In addition, if NH has the balls to deal Cole, that subtracts from the appearance this franchise will be competitive. Because you are trading your most talented starter in the eyes of some like you for prospects. and we have a rotation that is a major, major ??? Taillon has potential; Nova is a roller coaster and both Kuhl and Williams are 5s. I won't even bring up Glasnow.
Pittsburgh makes zero sense for Moustakas. remember, he just played in Kansas City. How do you know he doesn't have offers? Because he hasn't signed?
Since he would never consider Pittsburgh and that is a huge joke, where do you think he will sign and why?
I have to look. Again, who was the most significant free agent we have signed in the last two decades. If you want to only go the last decade, fire away. I think it is a joke under this ownership and GM we wouldn't be an option. There is nothing I posted that is incorrect. You on the other hand, are wishful thinking guy instead of realistic guy based on facts.
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NH double talk
5A6864647042616865606F68090 wrote: Pretty much all GMs are vague by necessity.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
NH double talk
58786B7677190 wrote: Pretty much all GMs are vague by necessity.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
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Moustakas options
Anaheim or whatever the hell they are called ... they need to decide how they want to prioritize things between SP, CL, 3B, C. Those are obvious holes. EDIT - they signed Cosart, so ... he will man third.
Braves, I can see.
Giants ... are they enamored with Sandoval? They are looking to make moves, hence Stanton interest, Cutch interest
Cleveland needs an up grade.
Mets - They are looking for a 2B. If they don't get one, Cabrera back to 2B and Moustakas to 3B. David Wright isn't walking through the door anymore.
All are better options because he could be the missing piece or they have more money.
I'm not even bringing up the White Sox since their interest in Machado is more about flipping him to the Yanks for a bunch of prospects.
Anaheim or whatever the hell they are called ... they need to decide how they want to prioritize things between SP, CL, 3B, C. Those are obvious holes. EDIT - they signed Cosart, so ... he will man third.
Braves, I can see.
Giants ... are they enamored with Sandoval? They are looking to make moves, hence Stanton interest, Cutch interest
Cleveland needs an up grade.
Mets - They are looking for a 2B. If they don't get one, Cabrera back to 2B and Moustakas to 3B. David Wright isn't walking through the door anymore.
All are better options because he could be the missing piece or they have more money.
I'm not even bringing up the White Sox since their interest in Machado is more about flipping him to the Yanks for a bunch of prospects.
NH double talk
575C54585D5C470204734A525B5C5C1D505C330 wrote: Pretty much all GMs are vague by necessity.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
There isn't a plan in place. It's been widely reported that NH didn't know which lane to pick going into the winter meetings. Based on what we have seen the last two years, there hasn't been much of a plan. You saying all the sudden something has changed?
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
There isn't a plan in place. It's been widely reported that NH didn't know which lane to pick going into the winter meetings. Based on what we have seen the last two years, there hasn't been much of a plan. You saying all the sudden something has changed?
NH double talk
7D767E7277766D282E596078717676377A76190 wrote: Pretty much all GMs are vague by necessity.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Stop writing posts. Everything you write is a lie and a contradiction.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HEAR NH SAY SOMETHING YOU LIKE YOU SAY:
"NH just said that he's going to..."
or
"Didn't you hear that NH just said that..."
So, when his lies, suit your lies, you say he's telling the truth.
When he says things you don't like, then you say:
"It's just GM speak. All GMs do this."
Please stop quoting my posts and replying to me. I don't appreciate your dishonesty and everybody on the board sees it.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Stop writing posts. Everything you write is a lie and a contradiction.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HEAR NH SAY SOMETHING YOU LIKE YOU SAY:
"NH just said that he's going to..."
or
"Didn't you hear that NH just said that..."
So, when his lies, suit your lies, you say he's telling the truth.
When he says things you don't like, then you say:
"It's just GM speak. All GMs do this."
Please stop quoting my posts and replying to me. I don't appreciate your dishonesty and everybody on the board sees it.
NH double talk
6D4D5E43422C0 wrote: Pretty much all GMs are vague by necessity.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Stop writing posts. Everything you write is a lie and a contradiction.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HEAR NH SAY SOMETHING YOU LIKE YOU SAY:
"NH just said that he's going to..."
or
"Didn't you hear that NH just said that..."
So, when his lies, suit your lies, you say he's telling the truth.
When he says things you don't like, then you say:
"It's just GM speak. All GMs do this."
Please stop quoting my posts and replying to me. I don't appreciate your dishonesty and everybody on the board sees it.
MLB Radio has been puzzled by NH's plan. They don't know if he has one. They understand the small market thing, but ...
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Stop writing posts. Everything you write is a lie and a contradiction.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HEAR NH SAY SOMETHING YOU LIKE YOU SAY:
"NH just said that he's going to..."
or
"Didn't you hear that NH just said that..."
So, when his lies, suit your lies, you say he's telling the truth.
When he says things you don't like, then you say:
"It's just GM speak. All GMs do this."
Please stop quoting my posts and replying to me. I don't appreciate your dishonesty and everybody on the board sees it.
MLB Radio has been puzzled by NH's plan. They don't know if he has one. They understand the small market thing, but ...
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
NH double talk
0121322F2E400 wrote: Pretty much all GMs are vague by necessity.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Stop writing posts. Everything you write is a lie and a contradiction.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HEAR NH SAY SOMETHING YOU LIKE YOU SAY:
"NH just said that he's going to..."
or
"Didn't you hear that NH just said that..."
So, when his lies, suit your lies, you say he's telling the truth.
When he says things you don't like, then you say:
"It's just GM speak. All GMs do this."
Please stop quoting my posts and replying to me. I don't appreciate your dishonesty and everybody on the board sees it.
Sorry, one more post to you: Good Answer.
Not in matters like this. Yes, maybe when discussing the specifics of which players they have interest in or which of their own players they'd be willing to trade.
But there are no GMs that have no plan and no idea what they are going to do for the next season.
This is the offseason to prepare for next season. You will not find a single GM that doesn't know whether they're team is contending or rebuilding. The only one that does that is the liar that we have.
I'd really love for you to provide me examples of when you've heard a GM openly say they don't know whether their team is contending or rebuilding.
How about one example? In any sport.
You honestly believe Huntington has no plan? Honestly. A multi-million dollar business has no plan what so ever.
Please, put on MLB Network. You will hear this talk all day. I did. I heard it all day on Wednesday.
I don't know the plan. I assume you don't know the plan either. It could go either way. We, the fans (I think you are a fan), will find out soon enough. I just find it hard to believe that Huntington doesn't know his plan or the team's direction. Just because he doesn't tell you, doesn't mean there is no plan. I mean, don't you think that is common sense too?
Stop writing posts. Everything you write is a lie and a contradiction.
EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HEAR NH SAY SOMETHING YOU LIKE YOU SAY:
"NH just said that he's going to..."
or
"Didn't you hear that NH just said that..."
So, when his lies, suit your lies, you say he's telling the truth.
When he says things you don't like, then you say:
"It's just GM speak. All GMs do this."
Please stop quoting my posts and replying to me. I don't appreciate your dishonesty and everybody on the board sees it.
Sorry, one more post to you: Good Answer.
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steve49
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The team is in "no man's land." When Glasnow flamed out last year , it pretty much killed any chance of the Pirates competing for a WS in 2018 and probably 2019. IMO , we may as well trade Cole and either Cutch or Harrison . This would give us another window around 2020. Just no way the Pirates are going to be able to add the pieces to be serious contenders . We've been linked to Jamie Garcia while the competition is adding or looking to add real difference makers
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
NH double talk
6562736073222F160 wrote: The team is in "no man's land." When Glasnow flamed out last year , it pretty much killed any chance of the Pirates competing for a WS in 2018 and probably 2019. IMO , we may as well trade Cole and either Cutch or Harrison . This would give us another window around 2020. Just no way the Pirates are going to be able to add the pieces to be serious contenders . We've been linked to Jamie Garcia while the competition is adding or looking to add real difference makers
I wouldn't blame Glasnow at all. He was 23 years old last year. To put that in perspective, Chance Adams, the Yankees top pitching prospect being discussed in a trade, is 23 with no major league experience. Glasnow was up at age 22 fro a few innings.
I think too much hype and hope was put on Glasnow by the fans and a little by the Pirates. No way would I give up on him as a ML pitcher. He has time to mature.
I do agree with you that they are in "no man's land", meaning they can go either way. They can add some pieces to a decent team or they can trade everyone and rebuild. With trade talks involving Cole, the rebuild looks like the direction.
I wouldn't blame Glasnow at all. He was 23 years old last year. To put that in perspective, Chance Adams, the Yankees top pitching prospect being discussed in a trade, is 23 with no major league experience. Glasnow was up at age 22 fro a few innings.
I think too much hype and hope was put on Glasnow by the fans and a little by the Pirates. No way would I give up on him as a ML pitcher. He has time to mature.
I do agree with you that they are in "no man's land", meaning they can go either way. They can add some pieces to a decent team or they can trade everyone and rebuild. With trade talks involving Cole, the rebuild looks like the direction.