From 2013-17 the Bucs finished 3, 2, 2, 8, and 8 games behind the Cardinals. Both teams made the playoffs in '13, '14, and '15 and both missed in '16 and '17. Like the Bucs, the Cards for the most part failed to make any big time additions the past two years, waiting to see if their young players emerged and watching certain veterans under perform or get injured.
The Cards have made it clear it is time for change. Flush with money and tradeable pieces, they have committed to pursuing Stanton, JD Martinez, Josh Donaldson, or Eric Hosmer among others. My Cardinal friends brag that every signing in the power market will go through St.Louis as teams and players know the Cards are willing to spend to improve their team.
Optimistically, and without any significant additions, I consider the Bucs an 80 to 82 win team in 2018. As currently constructed, I don't think the Cards are significantly better. However, should they sign one of the big names above, and add a proven closer, I see them getting over 90 wins and out of reach.
For five years we have been in virtually the same neighborhood as the Cards. By the end of next week we may be moving in different directions for the foreseeable future.
Separate Ways
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Separate Ways
64634F584E2D0 wrote: From 2013-17 the Bucs finished 3, 2, 2, 8, and 8 games behind the Cardinals. Both teams made the playoffs in '13, '14, and '15 and both missed in '16 and '17. Like the Bucs, the Cards for the most part failed to make any big time additions the past two years, waiting to see if their young players emerged and watching certain veterans under perform or get injured.
The Cards have made it clear it is time for change. Flush with money and tradeable pieces, they have committed to pursuing Stanton, JD Martinez, Josh Donaldson, or Eric Hosmer among others. My Cardinal friends brag that every signing in the power market will go through St.Louis as teams and players know the Cards are willing to spend to improve their team.
Optimistically, and without any significant additions, I consider the Bucs an 80 to 82 win team in 2018. As currently constructed, I don't think the Cards are significantly better. However, should they sign one of the big names above, and add a proven closer, I see them getting over 90 wins and out of reach.
For five years we have been in virtually the same neighborhood as the Cards. By the end of next week we may be moving in different directions for the foreseeable future.
The Cards are a much better organization then we are. It's not close. We have been in different directions for years. They are a model of consistency ... we aren't.
The Cards have made it clear it is time for change. Flush with money and tradeable pieces, they have committed to pursuing Stanton, JD Martinez, Josh Donaldson, or Eric Hosmer among others. My Cardinal friends brag that every signing in the power market will go through St.Louis as teams and players know the Cards are willing to spend to improve their team.
Optimistically, and without any significant additions, I consider the Bucs an 80 to 82 win team in 2018. As currently constructed, I don't think the Cards are significantly better. However, should they sign one of the big names above, and add a proven closer, I see them getting over 90 wins and out of reach.
For five years we have been in virtually the same neighborhood as the Cards. By the end of next week we may be moving in different directions for the foreseeable future.
The Cards are a much better organization then we are. It's not close. We have been in different directions for years. They are a model of consistency ... we aren't.
Separate Ways
7E79554254370 wrote: From 2013-17 the Bucs finished 3, 2, 2, 8, and 8 games behind the Cardinals. Both teams made the playoffs in '13, '14, and '15 and both missed in '16 and '17. Like the Bucs, the Cards for the most part failed to make any big time additions the past two years, waiting to see if their young players emerged and watching certain veterans under perform or get injured.
The Cards have made it clear it is time for change. Flush with money and tradeable pieces, they have committed to pursuing Stanton, JD Martinez, Josh Donaldson, or Eric Hosmer among others. My Cardinal friends brag that every signing in the power market will go through St.Louis as teams and players know the Cards are willing to spend to improve their team.
Optimistically, and without any significant additions, I consider the Bucs an 80 to 82 win team in 2018. As currently constructed, I don't think the Cards are significantly better. However, should they sign one of the big names above, and add a proven closer, I see them getting over 90 wins and out of reach.
For five years we have been in virtually the same neighborhood as the Cards. By the end of next week we may be moving in different directions for the foreseeable future.
I don't think it has been same neighborhood last two years. We star
Rated year thinking that might be true but 8 games is out of the neighborhood
The Cards have made it clear it is time for change. Flush with money and tradeable pieces, they have committed to pursuing Stanton, JD Martinez, Josh Donaldson, or Eric Hosmer among others. My Cardinal friends brag that every signing in the power market will go through St.Louis as teams and players know the Cards are willing to spend to improve their team.
Optimistically, and without any significant additions, I consider the Bucs an 80 to 82 win team in 2018. As currently constructed, I don't think the Cards are significantly better. However, should they sign one of the big names above, and add a proven closer, I see them getting over 90 wins and out of reach.
For five years we have been in virtually the same neighborhood as the Cards. By the end of next week we may be moving in different directions for the foreseeable future.
I don't think it has been same neighborhood last two years. We star
Rated year thinking that might be true but 8 games is out of the neighborhood