Here is what I'm thinking 2017's team with payroll obligations looks like. I'm guessing on some salaries. Please correct if you have insight or knowledge I don't.
Cervelli 9m
Stewart 1.5m
Jaso 4
Harrison 7.75
Mercer 3m (arbitration, clueless on this one)
Kang 2.75
Cutch 14.25
Marte 5.33
Polanco 1.5
8 starters and Stewart 49 million
Cole 5m (see Mercer)
Tallion .6
Hutchison 2.2 (no idea)
Glasnow .6
Kuhl or Brault .6
Starters 9 million
Watson 5 (see Cole and Mercer)
Bastardo 6.5
Rivero .6
Schugel .6
Caminero or other rookie .6
Pen 13.3 million. I chose not to bring Hughes back. Feliz and Nicasio probably won't return.
Frazier .6
Bell .6
Bench 1.2 million Frese and Joyce will not return. I thought about putting SRod on at 3.5 million because we all know it's happening.
I'm at 72.5 million accounting for 21 players. I'm light two bench players and 2 bullpen guys.
2017 payroll obligations
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UtahPirate
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2017 payroll obligations
This is from the team site:
"Shortly before that unexpected deal, Pittsburgh returned left-hander Jonathon Niese to the Mets for lefty reliever Antonio Bastardo and cash..."
I don't know how much we got back from the Mets as I haven't seen it reported. But I don't think we'll owe Bastardo the full $6.5M.
I was thinking that without having to pay another year of Melancon at around $10M and without Liriano at $13M that was almost 25% of this years' team salary which has been reported really close to $100M. I think that makes your guesstimate look pretty close.
"Shortly before that unexpected deal, Pittsburgh returned left-hander Jonathon Niese to the Mets for lefty reliever Antonio Bastardo and cash..."
I don't know how much we got back from the Mets as I haven't seen it reported. But I don't think we'll owe Bastardo the full $6.5M.
I was thinking that without having to pay another year of Melancon at around $10M and without Liriano at $13M that was almost 25% of this years' team salary which has been reported really close to $100M. I think that makes your guesstimate look pretty close.
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SteadyFreddy
2017 payroll obligations
So taking a look at all of that there is really no excuse in the world for the Pirates to not add payroll to the Major League roster next season, and go out and sign at least one maybe even two above average starting pitchers that can help this team win.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
2017 payroll obligations
436475717469566275747469100 wrote: So taking a look at all of that there is really no excuse in the world for the Pirates to not add payroll to the Major League roster next season, and go out and sign at least one maybe even two above average starting pitchers that can help this team win.
That should be the plan.
I also think a trade could happen to bring in someone too.
That should be the plan.
I also think a trade could happen to bring in someone too.
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SammyKhalifa
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2017 payroll obligations
Sucky SP crop next year.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/03/2 ... gents.html
Starting Pitchers
Brett Anderson (29)
Clay Buchholz (32) — $13.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Andrew Cashner (30)
Jhoulys Chacin (29)
Bartolo Colon (43)
Jorge De La Rosa (36)
R.A. Dickey (42)
Doug Fister (33)
Jaime Garcia (30) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Gio Gonzalez (31) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jason Hammel (34) — $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jeremy Hellickson (30)
Rich Hill (37)
Derek Holland (30) — $11MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Scott Kazmir (33) — can opt out of remaining two years, $32MM on current contract
Mat Latos (29)
Colby Lewis (37)
Kris Medlen (31) — $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Matt Moore (28) — $7MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Charlie Morton (33) — $9.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Jon Niese (30) — $10MM club option with a $500K buyout
Ivan Nova (30)
Jake Peavy (36)
CC Sabathia (36) — $25MM vesting option with a $5MM buyout
James Shields (35) — can opt out of remaining two years, $44MM on current contract
Alfredo Simon (36)
Edinson Volquez (33) — $10MM mutual option with a $3MM buyout
Jered Weaver (34)
C.J. Wilson (36)
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/03/2 ... gents.html
Starting Pitchers
Brett Anderson (29)
Clay Buchholz (32) — $13.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Andrew Cashner (30)
Jhoulys Chacin (29)
Bartolo Colon (43)
Jorge De La Rosa (36)
R.A. Dickey (42)
Doug Fister (33)
Jaime Garcia (30) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Gio Gonzalez (31) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jason Hammel (34) — $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jeremy Hellickson (30)
Rich Hill (37)
Derek Holland (30) — $11MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Scott Kazmir (33) — can opt out of remaining two years, $32MM on current contract
Mat Latos (29)
Colby Lewis (37)
Kris Medlen (31) — $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Matt Moore (28) — $7MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Charlie Morton (33) — $9.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Jon Niese (30) — $10MM club option with a $500K buyout
Ivan Nova (30)
Jake Peavy (36)
CC Sabathia (36) — $25MM vesting option with a $5MM buyout
James Shields (35) — can opt out of remaining two years, $44MM on current contract
Alfredo Simon (36)
Edinson Volquez (33) — $10MM mutual option with a $3MM buyout
Jered Weaver (34)
C.J. Wilson (36)
2017 payroll obligations
14262A2A3E0C2F262B2E2126470 wrote: Sucky SP crop next year.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/03/2 ... gents.html
Starting Pitchers
Brett Anderson (29)
Clay Buchholz (32) — $13.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Andrew Cashner (30)
Jhoulys Chacin (29)
Bartolo Colon (43)
Jorge De La Rosa (36)
R.A. Dickey (42)
Doug Fister (33)
Jaime Garcia (30) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Gio Gonzalez (31) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jason Hammel (34) — $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jeremy Hellickson (30)
Rich Hill (37)
Derek Holland (30) — $11MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Scott Kazmir (33) — can opt out of remaining two years, $32MM on current contract
Mat Latos (29)
Colby Lewis (37)
Kris Medlen (31) — $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Matt Moore (28) — $7MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Charlie Morton (33) — $9.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Jon Niese (30) — $10MM club option with a $500K buyout
Ivan Nova (30)
Jake Peavy (36)
CC Sabathia (36) — $25MM vesting option with a $5MM buyout
James Shields (35) — can opt out of remaining two years, $44MM on current contract
Alfredo Simon (36)
Edinson Volquez (33) — $10MM mutual option with a $3MM buyout
Jered Weaver (34)
C.J. Wilson (36)
maybe they think Nova is the answer and wanted a preview this season.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/03/2 ... gents.html
Starting Pitchers
Brett Anderson (29)
Clay Buchholz (32) — $13.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Andrew Cashner (30)
Jhoulys Chacin (29)
Bartolo Colon (43)
Jorge De La Rosa (36)
R.A. Dickey (42)
Doug Fister (33)
Jaime Garcia (30) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Gio Gonzalez (31) — $12MM club option with a $500K buyout
Jason Hammel (34) — $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Jeremy Hellickson (30)
Rich Hill (37)
Derek Holland (30) — $11MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Scott Kazmir (33) — can opt out of remaining two years, $32MM on current contract
Mat Latos (29)
Colby Lewis (37)
Kris Medlen (31) — $10MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Matt Moore (28) — $7MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
Charlie Morton (33) — $9.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Jon Niese (30) — $10MM club option with a $500K buyout
Ivan Nova (30)
Jake Peavy (36)
CC Sabathia (36) — $25MM vesting option with a $5MM buyout
James Shields (35) — can opt out of remaining two years, $44MM on current contract
Alfredo Simon (36)
Edinson Volquez (33) — $10MM mutual option with a $3MM buyout
Jered Weaver (34)
C.J. Wilson (36)
maybe they think Nova is the answer and wanted a preview this season.
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ChitownBucco
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2017 payroll obligations
here is a link to the future committments, as I doubt this sheet will format well here...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... utput=html
MLB Pittsburgh 16 : MLB Pittsburgh 16.xls
PITTSBURGH MLS thru '15 season Updated 8/16 salary + p-r bonus
Pos'n ML Srv Agent Length / Total Value 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021
McCutchen, Andrew cf 6.123 Aegis Sports
6 yr/$51.5M (12-17)+18 opt
$13,208,333 $14.208 $1.000
Bastardo, Antonio lhp 6.054
Legacy Agency
2 yr/$12M (16-17) $5,375,000 $6.625 FA
Harrison, Josh 3b-ss 4.033 MSM Sports
4 yr/$27.3M (15-18)+19-20 opts
$5,250,000 $7.750 $10.250 $1.000
Nova, Ivan rhp-s 5.024
Legacy Agency
1 yr/$4.1M (16) $4,100,000 FA
Jaso, John 1b 6.032 ACES 2 yr/$8M (16-17) $4,000,000 $4.000 FA
Feliz, Neftali rhp 5.151 BTI Sports 1 yr/$3.9M (16) $3,900,000 FA
Cervelli, Francisco c 5.146
Beverly Hills SC
1 yr/$3.5M (16) 3 yr/$31M (17-19)
$3,500,000 $9.000 $10.500 $11.500 FA
Watson, Tony lhp 4.101 CAA Sports 1 yr/$3.45M (16) $3,450,000 A3 FA
Marte, Starling lf 3.070
Legacy Agency
6 yr/$31M (14-19)+20-21 opts
$3,333,333 $5.333 $7.833 $10.333 $2.000
Locke, Jeff lhp-s 3.020 ACES 1 yr/$3.025M (16) $3,025,000 A2 A3 FA
Freese, David 3b 6.028 CAA Sports 1 yr/$3M (16) $3,000,000 FA
Nicasio, Juan rhp 4.084
El Juego Sports
1 yr/$3M (16) $3,000,000 A3 FA
Kang, Jung-Ho ss 1.000 Octagon 4 yr/$11M (15-18)+19 opt $2,500,000 $2.750 $3.000 $0.250
Rodriguez, Sean 2b-3b 6.133 MVP Sports 1 yr/$2.5M (16) $2,500,000 FA
Hughes, Jared rhp 3.162 SSG Baseball 1 yr/$2.175M (16) $2,175,000 A3 A4 FA
Mercer, Jordy ss 3.095
Legacy Agency
1 yr/$2.075M (16) $2,075,000 A2 A3 FA
Vogelsong, Ryan rhp-s 9.020 Dave Meier 1 yr/$2M (16) $2,000,000 FA
Stewart, Chris c 5.091 Jim Kuzmich 2 yr/$3M (16-17)+18 cl opt $1,350,000 $1.400 $0.250
Joyce, Matt of 6.123 ACES 1 yr/$1M (16) $1,000,000 FA
Fryer, Eric c 1.108 Joe Speed 1 yr/$0.575M (16) $575,000 A1 A2 A3 FA
Cole, Gerrit rhp-s 2.111 Boras Corp. 1 yr/$0.548M (16) $548,000 A1 A2 A3 FA
Polanco, Gregory rf 1.103
Beverly Hills SC
1 yr/$0.535M (16) 5 yr/$35M (17-21)+22-23 opts
$535,000 $1.600 $4.100 $6.100 $8.600 $11.600
Caminero, Arquimedes
rhp 1.060
Rep 1 Baseball
1 yr/$0.5325M (16) $532,500 A1 A2 A3 FA
Lobstein, Kyle lhp 1.033
Ballengee Group
1 yr/$0.52M (16) $520,000 A1 A2 A3 FA
Rivero, Felipe lhp 0.162 L. Warner Cos. 1 yr/$0.5161M (16) $516,100
Diaz, Elias c 0.034
Magnus Sports
1 yr/$0.51M (16) $510,000
Bell, Josh of 0.000 Boras Corp. 1 yr (16)
Boscan, Wilfredo rhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Brault, Steven lhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Frazier, Adam ss 0.000 1 yr (16)
Garcia, Willy of 0.000 1 yr (16)
Glasnow, Tyler rhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Hanson, Alen ss 0.000 1 yr (16)
Hutchison, Drew rhp-s 3.128 ACES 1 yr/$2.2M (16) A2 A3 FA
Kingham, Nick rhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Kuhl, Chad rhp-s 0.000 1 yr (16)
Moroff, Max 2b 0.000 1 yr (16)
Ngoepe, Gift 2b 0.000 1 yr (16)
Rogers, Jason 1b 0.163
Rep 1 Baseball
1 yr/$0.5235M (16)
Schugel, A.J. rhp 0.040
Taillon, Jameson rhp-s 0.000 1 yr (16)
Tabata, Jose
Swap of Morse, Tabata salaries
$4,666,667
TOTAL - PIT 2016 total as of 4/4/16 $99,520,500 $52.666 $36.933 $29.183 $10.600 $11.600
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... utput=html
MLB Pittsburgh 16 : MLB Pittsburgh 16.xls
PITTSBURGH MLS thru '15 season Updated 8/16 salary + p-r bonus
Pos'n ML Srv Agent Length / Total Value 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021
McCutchen, Andrew cf 6.123 Aegis Sports
6 yr/$51.5M (12-17)+18 opt
$13,208,333 $14.208 $1.000
Bastardo, Antonio lhp 6.054
Legacy Agency
2 yr/$12M (16-17) $5,375,000 $6.625 FA
Harrison, Josh 3b-ss 4.033 MSM Sports
4 yr/$27.3M (15-18)+19-20 opts
$5,250,000 $7.750 $10.250 $1.000
Nova, Ivan rhp-s 5.024
Legacy Agency
1 yr/$4.1M (16) $4,100,000 FA
Jaso, John 1b 6.032 ACES 2 yr/$8M (16-17) $4,000,000 $4.000 FA
Feliz, Neftali rhp 5.151 BTI Sports 1 yr/$3.9M (16) $3,900,000 FA
Cervelli, Francisco c 5.146
Beverly Hills SC
1 yr/$3.5M (16) 3 yr/$31M (17-19)
$3,500,000 $9.000 $10.500 $11.500 FA
Watson, Tony lhp 4.101 CAA Sports 1 yr/$3.45M (16) $3,450,000 A3 FA
Marte, Starling lf 3.070
Legacy Agency
6 yr/$31M (14-19)+20-21 opts
$3,333,333 $5.333 $7.833 $10.333 $2.000
Locke, Jeff lhp-s 3.020 ACES 1 yr/$3.025M (16) $3,025,000 A2 A3 FA
Freese, David 3b 6.028 CAA Sports 1 yr/$3M (16) $3,000,000 FA
Nicasio, Juan rhp 4.084
El Juego Sports
1 yr/$3M (16) $3,000,000 A3 FA
Kang, Jung-Ho ss 1.000 Octagon 4 yr/$11M (15-18)+19 opt $2,500,000 $2.750 $3.000 $0.250
Rodriguez, Sean 2b-3b 6.133 MVP Sports 1 yr/$2.5M (16) $2,500,000 FA
Hughes, Jared rhp 3.162 SSG Baseball 1 yr/$2.175M (16) $2,175,000 A3 A4 FA
Mercer, Jordy ss 3.095
Legacy Agency
1 yr/$2.075M (16) $2,075,000 A2 A3 FA
Vogelsong, Ryan rhp-s 9.020 Dave Meier 1 yr/$2M (16) $2,000,000 FA
Stewart, Chris c 5.091 Jim Kuzmich 2 yr/$3M (16-17)+18 cl opt $1,350,000 $1.400 $0.250
Joyce, Matt of 6.123 ACES 1 yr/$1M (16) $1,000,000 FA
Fryer, Eric c 1.108 Joe Speed 1 yr/$0.575M (16) $575,000 A1 A2 A3 FA
Cole, Gerrit rhp-s 2.111 Boras Corp. 1 yr/$0.548M (16) $548,000 A1 A2 A3 FA
Polanco, Gregory rf 1.103
Beverly Hills SC
1 yr/$0.535M (16) 5 yr/$35M (17-21)+22-23 opts
$535,000 $1.600 $4.100 $6.100 $8.600 $11.600
Caminero, Arquimedes
rhp 1.060
Rep 1 Baseball
1 yr/$0.5325M (16) $532,500 A1 A2 A3 FA
Lobstein, Kyle lhp 1.033
Ballengee Group
1 yr/$0.52M (16) $520,000 A1 A2 A3 FA
Rivero, Felipe lhp 0.162 L. Warner Cos. 1 yr/$0.5161M (16) $516,100
Diaz, Elias c 0.034
Magnus Sports
1 yr/$0.51M (16) $510,000
Bell, Josh of 0.000 Boras Corp. 1 yr (16)
Boscan, Wilfredo rhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Brault, Steven lhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Frazier, Adam ss 0.000 1 yr (16)
Garcia, Willy of 0.000 1 yr (16)
Glasnow, Tyler rhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Hanson, Alen ss 0.000 1 yr (16)
Hutchison, Drew rhp-s 3.128 ACES 1 yr/$2.2M (16) A2 A3 FA
Kingham, Nick rhp 0.000 1 yr (16)
Kuhl, Chad rhp-s 0.000 1 yr (16)
Moroff, Max 2b 0.000 1 yr (16)
Ngoepe, Gift 2b 0.000 1 yr (16)
Rogers, Jason 1b 0.163
Rep 1 Baseball
1 yr/$0.5235M (16)
Schugel, A.J. rhp 0.040
Taillon, Jameson rhp-s 0.000 1 yr (16)
Tabata, Jose
Swap of Morse, Tabata salaries
$4,666,667
TOTAL - PIT 2016 total as of 4/4/16 $99,520,500 $52.666 $36.933 $29.183 $10.600 $11.600
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ChitownBucco
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2017 payroll obligations
615C5B415C5B350 wrote: Here is what I'm thinking 2017's team with payroll obligations looks like. I'm guessing on some salaries. Please correct if you have insight or knowledge I don't.
Cervelli 9m
Stewart 1.5m
Jaso 4
Harrison 7.75
Mercer 3m (arbitration, clueless on this one)
Kang 2.75
Cutch 14.25
Marte 5.33
Polanco 1.5
8 starters and Stewart 49 million
Cole 5m (see Mercer)
Tallion .6
Hutchison 2.2 (no idea)
Glasnow .6
Kuhl or Brault .6
Starters 9 million
Watson 5 (see Cole and Mercer)
Bastardo 6.5
Rivero .6
Schugel .6
Caminero or other rookie .6
Pen 13.3 million. I chose not to bring Hughes back. Feliz and Nicasio probably won't return.
Frazier .6
Bell .6
Bench 1.2 million Frese and Joyce will not return. I thought about putting SRod on at 3.5 million because we all know it's happening.
I'm at 72.5 million accounting for 21 players. I'm light two bench players and 2 bullpen guys.
if that link doesn't work, you can manuever to it from the first link provided
Cervelli 9m
Stewart 1.5m
Jaso 4
Harrison 7.75
Mercer 3m (arbitration, clueless on this one)
Kang 2.75
Cutch 14.25
Marte 5.33
Polanco 1.5
8 starters and Stewart 49 million
Cole 5m (see Mercer)
Tallion .6
Hutchison 2.2 (no idea)
Glasnow .6
Kuhl or Brault .6
Starters 9 million
Watson 5 (see Cole and Mercer)
Bastardo 6.5
Rivero .6
Schugel .6
Caminero or other rookie .6
Pen 13.3 million. I chose not to bring Hughes back. Feliz and Nicasio probably won't return.
Frazier .6
Bell .6
Bench 1.2 million Frese and Joyce will not return. I thought about putting SRod on at 3.5 million because we all know it's happening.
I'm at 72.5 million accounting for 21 players. I'm light two bench players and 2 bullpen guys.
if that link doesn't work, you can manuever to it from the first link provided
2017 payroll obligations
6D4A5B5F5A47784C5B5A5A473E0 wrote: So taking a look at all of that there is really no excuse in the world for the Pirates to not add payroll to the Major League roster next season, and go out and sign at least one maybe even two above average starting pitchers that can help this team win.
Come on Freddy, there wasn't any legitimate excuse not to do the same thing this year and it didn't happen. They didn't even try. Took a waiver on a bullpen pitcher (nicasio) and a washed up never has been (vogelsong). Why would it be any different? They were similarly situated with payroll.
Come on Freddy, there wasn't any legitimate excuse not to do the same thing this year and it didn't happen. They didn't even try. Took a waiver on a bullpen pitcher (nicasio) and a washed up never has been (vogelsong). Why would it be any different? They were similarly situated with payroll.