Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:35 pm
Those of us that wanted to see Happ back in Blank and Gold, can forget it. Happ is signing a multi year with the Yanks.
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Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm
I think he was a top target for them once Washington signed the main guy.
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:42 pm
Yea, the rich get richer and the Pirates talk about starting a reliever instead of a starting pitcher... Butt backwards way of addressing a pitching need...But our beloved cheap skate, low payroll, budget conscious, miserly, tight-fisted, cellar dwelling dumb heads in the front office.... have a plan 
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:46 pm
Happ back here wasn't realistic at all.
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:51 pm
It is beyond me how this front office can get rid of Nova and say with a straight face "we like our internal options (Kingham and Brault) to fill that role."
Yea, and you "like our internal options" at SS and RF, too.
NUTTING & NH ... PLEASE GET SOME REAL PLAYERS.
Look, maybe we can survive in RF if Polanco comes back sooner than expected (not likely), but MAYBE we'll get lucky and it will work out.
But, before March, this organization absolutely MUST get:
1. A Major League SS; and
2. A Major League Starting Pitcher (AND WE ACTUALLY NEED 2 NOW SINCE WE JUST GAVE ONE AWAY FOR NOTHING!!!).
Just shoot me ...
Yea, and you "like our internal options" at SS and RF, too.
NUTTING & NH ... PLEASE GET SOME REAL PLAYERS.
Look, maybe we can survive in RF if Polanco comes back sooner than expected (not likely), but MAYBE we'll get lucky and it will work out.
But, before March, this organization absolutely MUST get:
1. A Major League SS; and
2. A Major League Starting Pitcher (AND WE ACTUALLY NEED 2 NOW SINCE WE JUST GAVE ONE AWAY FOR NOTHING!!!).
Just shoot me ...
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:52 pm
7D6D6C5B4D4D412E0 wrote: Happ back here wasn't realistic at all.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:26 pm
1A2824243002212825202F28490 wrote: Happ back here wasn't realistic at all.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
does baseball considers it to be a problem?
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
does baseball considers it to be a problem?
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:50 pm
4E68697E68780B0 wrote: Happ back here wasn't realistic at all.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
does baseball considers it to be a problem?
Ha, fair point and I will have to concede.
But as we bemoan the loss of Ivan Nova the Indians are likely going to trade away a much better pitcher to (suprise!) the Dodgers. Why? Not because they want to for sure.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
does baseball considers it to be a problem?
Ha, fair point and I will have to concede.
But as we bemoan the loss of Ivan Nova the Indians are likely going to trade away a much better pitcher to (suprise!) the Dodgers. Why? Not because they want to for sure.
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:48 pm
02303C3C281A39303D383730510 wrote: Happ back here wasn't realistic at all.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
If we had an owner who doesn't want a payroll to be in the bottom five of all of baseball, we would stand a better chance getting someone of note instead of a slap hitting SS from Cleveland; a reclamation project from Cleveland and a reclamation project from SD. Minnesota is trying to add. Cincy has been connected to some pretty good players like Relamuto. Whether or not they land him, its out there they are trying and those two markets are similar to Pittsburgh.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
If we had an owner who doesn't want a payroll to be in the bottom five of all of baseball, we would stand a better chance getting someone of note instead of a slap hitting SS from Cleveland; a reclamation project from Cleveland and a reclamation project from SD. Minnesota is trying to add. Cincy has been connected to some pretty good players like Relamuto. Whether or not they land him, its out there they are trying and those two markets are similar to Pittsburgh.
Say bye bye to Happ
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:20 pm
4C5C5D6A7C7C701F0 wrote: Happ back here wasn't realistic at all.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
If we had an owner who doesn't want a payroll to be in the bottom five of all of baseball, we would stand a better chance getting someone of note instead of a slap hitting SS from Cleveland; a reclamation project from Cleveland and a reclamation project from SD. Minnesota is trying to add. Cincy has been connected to some pretty good players like Relamuto. Whether or not they land him, its out there they are trying and those two markets are similar to Pittsburgh.
The finances of MLB make it impossible for the Pirates to compete for established, productive free agents or even to trade for them. However, it shouldn't prevent them from acquiring good enough players who would make the payroll close to the MLB average. That's the problem. They maintain a very low payroll always in the range of 25th to 30th in MLB. They aren't even remotely close to the MLB average and they seem to be shedding salary. And as we learned after the previous "We'll spend when the time is right" or "We'll spend when the fans support us" comments, there will never be a right time. Not even after a 98 win season with record setting attendance. I wonder if at the winter meetings, NH has to stay outside in the dumpster.
Yeah, this isn't a Pirate problem it's a Baseball problem.
If we had an owner who doesn't want a payroll to be in the bottom five of all of baseball, we would stand a better chance getting someone of note instead of a slap hitting SS from Cleveland; a reclamation project from Cleveland and a reclamation project from SD. Minnesota is trying to add. Cincy has been connected to some pretty good players like Relamuto. Whether or not they land him, its out there they are trying and those two markets are similar to Pittsburgh.
The finances of MLB make it impossible for the Pirates to compete for established, productive free agents or even to trade for them. However, it shouldn't prevent them from acquiring good enough players who would make the payroll close to the MLB average. That's the problem. They maintain a very low payroll always in the range of 25th to 30th in MLB. They aren't even remotely close to the MLB average and they seem to be shedding salary. And as we learned after the previous "We'll spend when the time is right" or "We'll spend when the fans support us" comments, there will never be a right time. Not even after a 98 win season with record setting attendance. I wonder if at the winter meetings, NH has to stay outside in the dumpster.