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shedman
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Post by shedman »

Dave Littlefield WP = .432

Neal Huntington WP = .474

Ben Cherington WP = .352
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Post by 2drfischer@gmail.c »

6B707D7C757976180 wrote: Dave Littlefield  WP = .432

Neal Huntington WP = .474

Ben Cherington WP = .352


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Post by BenM »

Dave Littlefield GM for about 1215 games

Neal Huntington about 2106 games



Cherington? Less than 162



Small sample size?



There's no doubt, last season was a disaster. This year is only slightly better, but there was never going to be a quick fix for this team.
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0522290A470 wrote: Dave Littlefield GM for about 1215 games

Neal Huntington about 2106 games



Cherington? Less than 162



Small sample size?



There's no doubt, last season was a disaster. This year is only slightly better, but there was never going to be a quick fix for this team.
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Post by GreenWeenie »

FWIW- maybe nothing:



We probably all remember that Littlefield never had a winning club.



It took Huntington six full seasons to build one and to make post-season play.  The two years before that, the team had improved records from the previous years.  I think that most of us would agree that his first three seasons were "less encouraging." 



However, Ben Cherington is not the OJT GM that Huntington was when he got the Pirates job.  How that affects a fans expectations of Cherington is purely individualistic, of course.



Just because two other guys sxcked, I'm not sure that it gives a pass for a third guy to sxc, too. But, some folks might say so.
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Post by shedman »

427760606B5260606B6C60050 wrote: FWIW- maybe nothing:



We probably all remember that Littlefield never had a winning club.



It took Huntington six full seasons to build one and to make post-season play.  The two years before that, the team had improved records from the previous years.  I think that most of us would agree that his first three seasons were "less encouraging." 



However, Ben Cherington is not the OJT GM that Huntington was when he got the Pirates job.  How that affects a fans expectations of Cherington is purely individualistic, of course.



Just because two other guys sxcked, I'm not sure that it gives a pass for a third guy to sxc, too.  But, some folks might say so.
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Post by Surgnbuck »

From the entertainment standpoint of it along with the longevity and the twists and turns throughout the extended time, this was without a doubt a top 5 thread on the PMB.



Thanks for reincarnating it! If it can last at least through BC's tenure (which I hope is as long as NH's because it will just be better...just because) this will just be too fun.



This thread, the SOG/GOG, the offseason thread (this year's was already a classic), the ST thread (especially when Glassers was reporting live from Bradenton), and the GDT's from 2012-2016, most memorable being the 2013 WC game thread (I must have reread that thread 100 times).



Just my opinion of course.
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Post by Surgnbuck »

Of course, for all who are new to this, Shedman claimed all along that DL was the best GM, and he also had Cam Bonifay in the grouping.



Even after NH had overtaken DL in winning pct., ended the drought, won 3 playoff games and lost three others, Shedman still refused to accept NH as superior.



He's already put his initials in the cement, the tree, and stamped his name on declaring BC a complete moron, unqualified, and incompetent.



For the rest of us, hoping BC turns it around will make the man who loves to use the word "apologists" twist in the wind with his own apologist spin!!!



What a country!!
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Post by GreenWeenie »

173136232A2631272F440 wrote: Of course, for all who are new to this, Shedman claimed all along that DL was the best GM, and he also had Cam Bonifay in the grouping.



Even after NH had overtaken DL in winning pct., ended the drought, won 3 playoff games and lost three others, Shedman still refused to accept NH as superior.



He's already put his initials in the cement, the tree, and stamped his name on declaring BC a complete moron, unqualified, and incompetent.



For the rest of us, hoping BC turns it around will make the man who loves to use the word "apologists" twist in the wind with his own apologist spin!!!



What a country!!


Of course, Littlefield was superior.....just on the basis that he didn't make that Archer trade. @@@@@ Nothing else matters, right?
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Post by Surgnbuck »

043126262D1426262D2A26430 wrote: Of course, for all who are new to this, Shedman claimed all along that DL was the best GM, and he also had Cam Bonifay in the grouping.



Even after NH had overtaken DL in winning pct., ended the drought, won 3 playoff games and lost three others, Shedman still refused to accept NH as superior.



He's already put his initials in the cement, the tree, and stamped his name on declaring BC a complete moron, unqualified, and incompetent.



For the rest of us, hoping BC turns it around will make the man who loves to use the word "apologists" twist in the wind with his own apologist spin!!!



What a country!!


Of course, Littlefield was superior.....just on the basis that he didn't make that Archer trade.  @@@@@  Nothing else matters, right?


Don't forget, NH won with DL's drafted players McCutchen and Walker, and Marte came from Rene Gayo. Though I disagree, you can't but at least tip the cap DL's direction on two major components of NH's best teams.
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