Re: Pirates/Phillies Trade

[Bobster21]

Per the PG:



Instead of Richard Rodriguez or a number of other relief options, they dealt Braeden Ogle to the Phillies on Friday for Abrahan Gutierrez, the catcher the Pirates were supposed to get in Tuesday’s Tyler Anderson trade that fell apart.



Ogle, a 24-year-old left-hander the Pirates drafted in the fourth round back in 2016, had been at Class AAA Indianapolis this season, where he went 2-2 with a 3.13 ERA in 24 appearances out of the bullpen. Ogle struck out 42 and walked 23 in 31 2/3 innings.



Injuries had affected Ogle, although he was seemingly on the other side of them. There was a knee issue that cut short his 2017 campaign. Then just four starts in 2018 due to left shoulder inflammation.



That caused Ogle to convert from starter to reliever, where he seemingly found some comfort. In 2019, Ogle touched 97 mph and pitched to a 3.56 ERA in 27 games (43 innings), walking 13 and striking out 44 while reaching High-A.



The Pirates clearly like something about Gutierrez, a 21-year-old native of Caracas, Venezuela. Gutierrez is not ranked in the Phillies system but was hitting .288 with an .850 OPS in 50 games this season with Low-A Clearwater.



Gutierrez also had 10 doubles, five home runs, 32 RBIs and 37 walks in 219 plate appearances.



It also likely plays into the Pirates’ impending Rule 5 crunch, where they’re at risk of losing players off their 40-man roster because of baseball’s roster constrains. Both Ogle and Gutierrez are Rule 5 eligible, although it’s less likely that a Low-A catcher would get selected.



https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pir ... 2107300109

[fjk090852-7]

As the PG article notes this trade in part was due to the upcoming 40 man roster crunch this November. It would seem that many of the former regime prospects such as Tucker, Oliva ,and possibly Lolo Sanchez may be missing from the 40 man roster this Fall. A new GM wants to protect the players he has acquired, and is willing to release or trade some of the prospects of the former front office.

[Ecbucs]

3F3332696069616C6B746E590 wrote: As the PG article notes this trade in part was due to the upcoming  40 man roster crunch this November. It would seem that many of the former regime prospects such as Tucker, Oliva ,and possibly Lolo Sanchez may be missing from the 40 man roster this Fall. A new GM wants to protect the players he has acquired, and is willing to release or trade some of  the prospects of the former front office.


to me, getting somebody selected in Rule 5 is not bad as long as those that are protected are decent players/prospects.



I agree with idea that a lefty reliever is more likely to be taken than a low level catcher.



Currently the Bucs have 3 players on 60 day IL so there are 43 roster players.



I think 8-10 can be let go with no big loss. After that it gets a little dicey.



pitchers



Cahill

Davis

DeJong

Howard

Kyle Keller

Ponce

Shreve

Underwood



catchers



no one although Perez may be replaced by somebody else



infielders



E-Gon

Tucker

Nogowski (depending on what he shows remainder of year).



outfield



Evans

Polanco

Tom

Difo (depending on whether team needs his spot since he came in on minor league deal this season).



Even with this list there are still that are question marks;



Dillon Peters

Soriano

Oviedo

Crowe

Oliva

Gamel

[Bobster21]

Found it!