Follow the Cardinal Way...or you are shown the way out.

INbuc · Post by **INbuc** » Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:53 pm

https://www.scoopswithdannymac.com/bern ... you-think/

I just read this story about the Cardinals and the firing of Mike Shildt. This is a very detailed and insightful look at the Cardinal’s power structure and philosophy. Like all organizations, the Cardinals have problems....but they have a plan.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:17 pm

I was thinking that Cherington should be offering Shelton, the most perfect go-along guy in the world since Pence.

But, that would mean that we'd need to find another one who would agree to go along with BOB and Ben.

So much for my idea.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:55 pm

Interesting read. Reinforces my thought that Cora constantly sending people was a decision from higher up. Of course, sending Moran time after time might have been his subtle way of saying he had his own ideas.

Bobster21 · Post by **Bobster21** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:25 pm

76746E687E1B0 wrote: Interesting read. Reinforces my thought that Cora constantly sending people was a decision from higher up. Of course, sending Moran time after time might have been his subtle way of saying he had his own ideas.
Cora was praised for his work with the infielders. So it would appear he was fired for being a bad 3B coach. I heard somewhere that the Pirates led MLB with 19 players out at the plate. If those bad decisions were a directive from higher up it's doubtful he would have been fired for it. Of course we never know what goes on behind the scenes.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:25 pm

406D60717667703033020 wrote: Interesting read. Reinforces my thought that Cora constantly sending people was a decision from higher up. Of course, sending Moran time after time might have been his subtle way of saying he had his own ideas.
Cora was praised for his work with the infielders. So it would appear he was fired for being a bad 3B coach. I heard somewhere that the Pirates led MLB with 19 players out at the plate. If those bad decisions were a directive from higher up it's doubtful he would have been fired for it. Of course we never know what goes on behind the scenes.

And....he was hired by someone other than Ben Cherington. When everything other than Reynolds fails, and it did- get your own man.

Bobster21 · Post by **Bobster21** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:49 pm

182D3A3A31083A3A31363A5F0 wrote: Interesting read. Reinforces my thought that Cora constantly sending people was a decision from higher up. Of course, sending Moran time after time might have been his subtle way of saying he had his own ideas.
Cora was praised for his work with the infielders. So it would appear he was fired for being a bad 3B coach. I heard somewhere that the Pirates led MLB with 19 players out at the plate. If those bad decisions were a directive from higher up it's doubtful he would have been fired for it. Of course we never know what goes on behind the scenes.

And....he was hired by someone other than Ben Cherington. When everything other than Reynolds fails, and it did- get your own man.

A legit and reasonable point. I guess when you're the new guy in charge you can either clean house when you first take over or give the leftovers from the pervious regime a chance to convince you they belong. He gave Cora 2 years but leading MLB in getting guys thrown out at home is a deal breaker.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:59 pm

No doubt. That's a pretty big difference in their philosophiees, I would think At least, I hope that it would be.

Heck, if we fired evefybody who deserves tp be, we'd have a hard time playing!

BellevueBuc · Post by **BellevueBuc** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:14 pm

The Cardinal Way is garbage. Their fans are also the worst in sports.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:36 pm

There you go. We had it backwards. Should be "One man's treasure is another man's garbage."

NewMexicoLobo · Post by **NewMexicoLobo** » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:13 pm

785F56565F4C4F5F784F593A0 wrote: The Cardinal Way is garbage. Their fans are also the worst in sports.
Yeah, that's why they never win. ::)