33312B2D3B5E0 wrote: At one point NH said the Sox wanted threetop prospects. So it would be Glasnow, Meadows, and Keller. Or plug in Bell for one of those three. And who knows what else.
Yeah, that's crazy. But, not so crazy for the Sox to ask for it. He's under contract for four more years. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they'll be competitive again in that window. They don't NEED to trade him, but hey, if somebody meets their price, more power to them. I just hope it isn't us.
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Huntington comments on Quintana
Would we trade Cole or Tailbone if that package was offered?
Huntington comments on Quintana
173130273121520 wrote: Would we trade Cole or Tailbone if that package was offered?
Cole or Taillon for Meadows, Glasnow, and Keller. Yes. Absolutely. At least, I would if I were GM. Cole certainly as he has less years of control left.
My hope is that Glasnow breaks out as Taillon did last year, and our rotation next year is Cole, Taillon, Nova, Glasnow, Kuhl. I could live with that.
Cole or Taillon for Meadows, Glasnow, and Keller. Yes. Absolutely. At least, I would if I were GM. Cole certainly as he has less years of control left.
My hope is that Glasnow breaks out as Taillon did last year, and our rotation next year is Cole, Taillon, Nova, Glasnow, Kuhl. I could live with that.
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I would not be shocked if taillon was part of the sox' ask. Which of course would make it a pointless deal from the pirates' perspective.
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I would def do two of those 3. I doubt they're stuck on 3 of the top 5. Maybe that's where they started. Sounds like BS to me.
NH has never traded a top 100 prospect in like 117 deals spanning 6 years. Though Reese McGuire was top 100 the year before the Lirano dump. Maybe the sox just need to kick in some money
I really am deeply concerned about this rotation. Nova is far from a guarantee when you look at the back of his baseball card. If he falters, or just pitches down to a mid-4 ERA where he's always been, were going to have serious problems this year.
Hutchisons stats sheet is unfavorable to Jeff Locke. Glasnow will be held down for super two regardless of his performance and all signs point to him needing refinement.
Kingham will start in AAA to get some innings on his arm.
We really aren't in a good position opening day. We need no injuries and good luck
NH has never traded a top 100 prospect in like 117 deals spanning 6 years. Though Reese McGuire was top 100 the year before the Lirano dump. Maybe the sox just need to kick in some money
I really am deeply concerned about this rotation. Nova is far from a guarantee when you look at the back of his baseball card. If he falters, or just pitches down to a mid-4 ERA where he's always been, were going to have serious problems this year.
Hutchisons stats sheet is unfavorable to Jeff Locke. Glasnow will be held down for super two regardless of his performance and all signs point to him needing refinement.
Kingham will start in AAA to get some innings on his arm.
We really aren't in a good position opening day. We need no injuries and good luck
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202921303E440 wrote: Nova is far from a guarantee when you look at the back of his baseball card. If he falters, or just pitches down to a mid-4 ERA where he's always been, were going to have serious problems this year.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
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082528393E2F38787B4A0 wrote: Nova is far from a guarantee when you look at the back of his baseball card. If he falters, or just pitches down to a mid-4 ERA where he's always been, were going to have serious problems this year.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
But everyone wanted the older Happ and his previous ERAs:
2011 - 5.34
2012 - 4.79
2013 - 4.56
2014 - 4.22
2015 - 4.64 (before joining the Pirates)
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
But everyone wanted the older Happ and his previous ERAs:
2011 - 5.34
2012 - 4.79
2013 - 4.56
2014 - 4.22
2015 - 4.64 (before joining the Pirates)
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1B363B2A2D3C2B6B68590 wrote: Nova is far from a guarantee when you look at the back of his baseball card. If he falters, or just pitches down to a mid-4 ERA where he's always been, were going to have serious problems this year.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
I agree that Nova should be ok. The problems start with the next 2 spots. Hopefully Kuhl pitches at least as well as he did last year.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
I agree that Nova should be ok. The problems start with the next 2 spots. Hopefully Kuhl pitches at least as well as he did last year.
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49424A464342591C1A6D544C454242034E422D0 wrote: Nova is far from a guarantee when you look at the back of his baseball card. If he falters, or just pitches down to a mid-4 ERA where he's always been, were going to have serious problems this year.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
But everyone wanted the older Happ and his previous ERAs:
2011 - 5.34
2012 - 4.79
2013 - 4.56
2014 - 4.22
2015 - 4.64 (before joining the Pirates)
Sure there were quite a few posters on here that wanted him, and they were correct as evidenced by his 12016 numbers. I didn't see anyone say they didn't want Nova? It was if he regressed to his normal numbers. I think he will be better than his AL numbers.
That would be true but Nova's career 4.41 Yankee ERA was attained in the A.L. vs DHs and in the division with strong offenses like Boston, Toronto, Baltimore. And even then he managed an ERA of 3.70 in 2011 and 3.10 in 2013. He would have to pitch a lot worse than he ever has to have a mid-4 ERA in the NL.
But everyone wanted the older Happ and his previous ERAs:
2011 - 5.34
2012 - 4.79
2013 - 4.56
2014 - 4.22
2015 - 4.64 (before joining the Pirates)
Sure there were quite a few posters on here that wanted him, and they were correct as evidenced by his 12016 numbers. I didn't see anyone say they didn't want Nova? It was if he regressed to his normal numbers. I think he will be better than his AL numbers.
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I can agree with that. For him to float around mid 4 in the NL he would be underperforming based on his AL experience. No DH and better park. I have no concerns that he should be in the rotation.
My point is that even if everybody hits approximately where they should, where would our opening day rotation line up vs the other playoff contenders? If their pitchers hit approximately where they should?
My point is that even if everybody hits approximately where they should, where would our opening day rotation line up vs the other playoff contenders? If their pitchers hit approximately where they should?