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103F28293F2331395A0 wrote: Cole to the Astros!!!



Anybody know if they have anything decent in their system? They should go all out




from the Astros farm lets get some bats:

Kyle Tucker - OF - 20 yrs old - 17 HR 63 RBI in A+ and AA this year with combined OPS of .920

J.D. Davis - 3B - 24 yrs old - AA 19 HR OPS .878

Limited range at 3B, but strong arm and soft hands

7C4C405B5B4641624E5C5C2F0 wrote: Cole to the Astros!!!



Anybody know if they have anything decent in their system? They should go all out




from the Astros farm lets get some bats:

Kyle Tucker - OF - 20 yrs old - 17 HR 63 RBI in A+ and AA this year with combined OPS of .920

J.D. Davis - 3B - 24 yrs old - AA 19 HR OPS .878

Limited range at 3B, but strong arm and soft hands

Yes, move him for some bats please. The Astros are said to be very interested.

And the Astros just had 5 picks in the first 100 in the 2017 draft. It will be interesting what they do?



Would Cole be the best pitcher on the trade market if he is available?

29222A262322397C7A0D342C252222632E224D0 wrote: And the Astros just had 5 picks in the first 100 in the 2017 draft.  It will be interesting what they do?



Would Cole be the best pitcher on the trade market if he is available?
Won't that depend on who else is available? And we aren't likely to know that because teams won't disclose pitchers they may have tried unsuccessfully to trade. Of course Cole has lots of potential. But if he is traded now, his new team would be getting a pitcher whose ERA is worse than the league average and whose H/9, K/9 and HR/9 are all below league average. But it's possible and maybe even probable that the return for Cole would be based more on potential than current production.

7B70787471706B2E285F667E777070317C701F0 wrote: The jumping on the bandwagon of another team is kind of funny.  Especially, if it is because of the Ownership.



Not counting the Cardinals, only the Rangers make sense of the teams that were mentioned.  The Rangers have made the playoffs five times in seven seasons under their current ownership.



The Indians have had the same owner for 16 years and made the post season four times.  The Astros have had the same owner for six years and made the playoffs once.  The Rockies have had the same owner in their franchise for twenty-three years and made the playoffs three times.  The Pirates had the same owner for ten years and made three playoffs.



If ownership is your biggest problem, then why follow the Indians, Astros, or Rockies over the Pirates?  They certainly don't care as much and aren't trying as hard.






Well that's the easiest question ever.  The Indians are a good ball club and are 2 hours away.  I had to drive further than that to see the pirates, growing up. Progressive field is nice and while they aren't big spenders either, they add when it's time to add (Encarnacion)



Layup question

606961707E040 wrote: The jumping on the bandwagon of another team is kind of funny.  Especially, if it is because of the Ownership.



Not counting the Cardinals, only the Rangers make sense of the teams that were mentioned.  The Rangers have made the playoffs five times in seven seasons under their current ownership.



The Indians have had the same owner for 16 years and made the post season four times.  The Astros have had the same owner for six years and made the playoffs once.  The Rockies have had the same owner in their franchise for twenty-three years and made the playoffs three times.  The Pirates had the same owner for ten years and made three playoffs.



If ownership is your biggest problem, then why follow the Indians, Astros, or Rockies over the Pirates?  They certainly don't care as much and aren't trying as hard.






Well that's the easiest question ever.  The Indians are a good ball club and are 2 hours away.  I had to drive further than that to see the pirates, growing up.  Progressive field is nice and while they aren't big spenders either, they add when it's time to add (Encarnacion)



Layup question




Bob Nutting has had better success in making the playoffs than Larry Dolan has as an owner. Did Indian fans leave and jump on another bandwagon years ago too?

2328202C2928337670073E262F2828692428470 wrote: The jumping on the bandwagon of another team is kind of funny.  Especially, if it is because of the Ownership.



Not counting the Cardinals, only the Rangers make sense of the teams that were mentioned.  The Rangers have made the playoffs five times in seven seasons under their current ownership.



The Indians have had the same owner for 16 years and made the post season four times.  The Astros have had the same owner for six years and made the playoffs once.  The Rockies have had the same owner in their franchise for twenty-three years and made the playoffs three times.  The Pirates had the same owner for ten years and made three playoffs.



If ownership is your biggest problem, then why follow the Indians, Astros, or Rockies over the Pirates?  They certainly don't care as much and aren't trying as hard.






Well that's the easiest question ever.  The Indians are a good ball club and are 2 hours away.  I had to drive further than that to see the pirates, growing up.  Progressive field is nice and while they aren't big spenders either, they add when it's time to add (Encarnacion)



Layup question




Bob Nutting has had better success in making the playoffs than Larry Dolan has as an owner. Did Indian fans leave and jump on another bandwagon years ago too?




Seek professional help.



The Indians have won their division 8 times since the 1995 season and won the AL pennant last year. It's absolutely INSANE that you would badmouth them as a pirates fan. But that's you.



Why do you even care who other people root for? It's not jumping ship, they play in a different league. So read next time. Then think. Then type.



Or better yet skip the last part and we will pretend you did the first two.

You are the one not reading. Why are you going back to 1995? Larry Dolan didn't own the Indians in 1995. You are just trying to bash ownership any way you can. There are plenty of other reasons to bash them, but comparing them to the Indians is not one of them.



The Indians are the hot team now just like the Pirates were in 2013. I don't care who you root for, but don't tell me the Indians are a better organization than the Pirates based on their owner. As a whole, don't forget 1948 either.

49424A464342591C1A6D544C454242034E422D0 wrote: You are the one not reading. Why are you going back to 1995?  Larry Dolan didn't own the Indians in 1995. You are just trying to bash ownership any way you can. There are plenty of other reasons to bash them, but comparing them to the Indians is not one of them.



The Indians are the hot team now just like the Pirates were in 2013. I don't care who you root for, but don't tell me the Indians are a better organization than the Pirates based on their owner. As a whole, don't forget 1948 either.
Let's set the record straight. Since Dolan bought the Indians in 2000, they have had 8 winning seasons (and are currently leading their division), 4 post season appearances, advanced to the ALCS twice and went to the World Series last year. If you want to say the Pirate organization is better, that's your opinion but at least know what you're comparing it to.

002D20313627307073420 wrote: You are the one not reading. Why are you going back to 1995?  Larry Dolan didn't own the Indians in 1995. You are just trying to bash ownership any way you can. There are plenty of other reasons to bash them, but comparing them to the Indians is not one of them.



The Indians are the hot team now just like the Pirates were in 2013. I don't care who you root for, but don't tell me the Indians are a better organization than the Pirates based on their owner. As a whole, don't forget 1948 either.
Let's set the record straight. Since Dolan bought the Indians in 2000, they have had 8 winning seasons (and are currently leading their division), 4 post season appearances, advanced to the ALCS twice and went to the World Series last year. If you want to say the Pirate organization is better, that's your opinion but at least know what you're comparing it to.