48687B6667090 wrote: Alright here goes. Not sure why others can't look up stats?
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Deal with Yanks getting close?
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And as to either of these two getting a "big haul," that doesn't seem to be happening. Both got offers that are below what their respective teams were hoping for. NH's underlying philosophy has been that you simply can't get pitchers on the open market, and have to grow them internally. Apparently you can't get rid of them (for value) on the open market either.
Deal with Yanks getting close?
565D55595C5D460305724B535A5D5D1C515D320 wrote: Alright here goes. Not sure why others can't look up stats?
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Please show where I EVER said Archer was better. Feel free. I’ll wait.
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Please show where I EVER said Archer was better. Feel free. I’ll wait.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
Deal with Yanks getting close?
4161726F6E000 wrote: Alright here goes. Not sure why others can't look up stats?
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Please show where I EVER said Archer was better. Feel free. I’ll wait.
I never did. Please show me where I said YOU said Archer was better? It's called a question. I'll wait too.
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Please show where I EVER said Archer was better. Feel free. I’ll wait.
I never did. Please show me where I said YOU said Archer was better? It's called a question. I'll wait too.
Deal with Yanks getting close?
2E252D2124253E7B7D0A332B2225256429254A0 wrote: Alright here goes. Not sure why others can't look up stats?
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Please show where I EVER said Archer was better. Feel free. I’ll wait.
I never did. Please show me where I said YOU said Archer was better? It's called a question. I'll wait too.
Considering 2-3 posts ago I literally said their stats are nearly identical, seemed odd you would be asking the question.
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Please show where I EVER said Archer was better. Feel free. I’ll wait.
I never did. Please show me where I said YOU said Archer was better? It's called a question. I'll wait too.
Considering 2-3 posts ago I literally said their stats are nearly identical, seemed odd you would be asking the question.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
Deal with Yanks getting close?
Wouldn't it have been easier just to look at the stats and agree with me instead of going back and forth trying to prove me wrong?
Then when I posted the stats, you still questioned them?
Then when I posted the stats, you still questioned them?
Deal with Yanks getting close?
4B40484441405B1E186F564E474040014C402F0 wrote: Wouldn't it have been easier just to look at the stats and agree with me instead of going back and forth trying to prove me wrong?
Then when I posted the stats, you still questioned them?
Now who is doing the baiting?
I don’t agree with you. I just explained how negligible the stat differences are and how they are nearly identical.
But you know that as I just posted it. Yet you act like you’re not aware. The act by you doesn’t bother me. I enjoy pointing it out.
Keep it up, you’re making my afternoon with my in-laws much more entertaining.
Then when I posted the stats, you still questioned them?
Now who is doing the baiting?
I don’t agree with you. I just explained how negligible the stat differences are and how they are nearly identical.
But you know that as I just posted it. Yet you act like you’re not aware. The act by you doesn’t bother me. I enjoy pointing it out.
Keep it up, you’re making my afternoon with my in-laws much more entertaining.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
Deal with Yanks getting close?
7656455859370 wrote: Wouldn't it have been easier just to look at the stats and agree with me instead of going back and forth trying to prove me wrong?
Then when I posted the stats, you still questioned them?
Now who is doing the baiting?
I don’t agree with you. I just explained how negligible the stat differences are and how they are nearly identical.
But you know that as I just posted it. Yet you act like you’re not aware. The act by you doesn’t bother me. I enjoy pointing it out.
Keep it up, you’re making my afternoon with my in-laws much more entertaining.
So, after me pointing out the stats to you, you still think Archer has better stats? I never said how much greater the stats were. I just said they were better.
You are proving how you just go out of your way and attack and bait me no matter what I post.
Then when I posted the stats, you still questioned them?
Now who is doing the baiting?
I don’t agree with you. I just explained how negligible the stat differences are and how they are nearly identical.
But you know that as I just posted it. Yet you act like you’re not aware. The act by you doesn’t bother me. I enjoy pointing it out.
Keep it up, you’re making my afternoon with my in-laws much more entertaining.
So, after me pointing out the stats to you, you still think Archer has better stats? I never said how much greater the stats were. I just said they were better.
You are proving how you just go out of your way and attack and bait me no matter what I post.
Deal with Yanks getting close?
So, according to this ... the Yanks have offered a package of Frazier, Adams AND Andujar for Cole and Harrison. If they are hellbent on trading JayHay, I would pull the trigger on this. You get a starting third baseman in Andujar to build on; you get a starter for the rotation in Adams and you either get a starting OF in Frazier, or a fourth OF. Maybe getting Frazier forces NH to deal Cutch finally. That said, what will happen to the 18 million saved? Would it be reinvested on bringing in talented dudes, not crap? I doubt it.
The more and more this drags on, I don't see a single move happening again.
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/14532 ... errit-cole
Texas idea doesn't move the needle for me. Taking a prospect and Profar, who is on his way as a potential bust isn't a good idea. But, it wouldn't surprise me if NH jumps. Profar is controllable until 2021.
Minnesota - We don't need Nick Gordon IMO. We seem to have a glutton of middle infield prospects (Tucker, Newman and Kramer). Jay is a kid that doesn't provide immediate help. The kid from Pittsburgh named might intrigue them.
Cubs - I don't see NH wanting to help Chicago.
The more and more this drags on, I don't see a single move happening again.
https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/14532 ... errit-cole
Texas idea doesn't move the needle for me. Taking a prospect and Profar, who is on his way as a potential bust isn't a good idea. But, it wouldn't surprise me if NH jumps. Profar is controllable until 2021.
Minnesota - We don't need Nick Gordon IMO. We seem to have a glutton of middle infield prospects (Tucker, Newman and Kramer). Jay is a kid that doesn't provide immediate help. The kid from Pittsburgh named might intrigue them.
Cubs - I don't see NH wanting to help Chicago.
Deal with Yanks getting close?
4A41494540415A1F196E574F464141004D412E0 wrote: Alright here goes. Not sure why others can't look up stats?
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Archer pitches in a more offensive league ... he doesn't have an easy out each three innings by facing the pitcher. Cole's numbers would drastically be worse if he were in the AL, like Archer. Not rocket science.
Cole: 59-42 .584 Winning %
ERA: 3.50, ERA+: 112, FIP 3.27, WHIP: 1.217, H9: 8.6, BB9: 2.4, SO/9: 8.7, HR9: 0.8, SO/W: 3.56, Wild Pitch %: .04
Archer: 51-63 .447 Winning %
ERA: 3.63, ERA+: 108, FIP: 3.46, WHIP: 1.214, H9: 8.0, BB9: 2.9, SO/9: 9.7, HR9: 1.0, SO/W: 3.30, Wild Pitch %: .06
Out of the 11 categories listed above, Cole leads Archer in 8 of the 11 categories. I hope that helps.
Winning percentage? Are you kidding me?
Wild pitches? Are you fu@&ing kidding me?!?!
If you can’t see how the difference between those stats is so negligible, I don’t know what to tell you.
For example, the BB/9 is 0.5per 9 innings. Meaning Archer walks one more batter every three starts.
Stats.
Archer has .6 difference in H9 and a .003 difference in WHIP? But it is ok to claim those? They aren't negligible?
You wanted the stats, I gave you the stats. Are you saying stat wise Archer is better?
Archer pitches in a more offensive league ... he doesn't have an easy out each three innings by facing the pitcher. Cole's numbers would drastically be worse if he were in the AL, like Archer. Not rocket science.