230E03121504135350610 wrote: Now would be a good time to go make an attempt to sign a guy like Dallas Keuchel but since this Owner and GM will make every excuse in the world not to do so no way it will ever happen. This is a move in all seriousness that the Pirates need to consider with Taillon being down for an entire month. They're not gonna be able to survive with the guys they have right now they aren’t good enough.
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
If he wants more than a nickel and a pickle , it aint going to happen.
Taillion News... Ugh
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steve49
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505C5D060F060E03041B01360 wrote: According to Adam Berry he is being shut down for 4 weeks. He has not felt right since ST.
makes sense ....
makes sense ....
Taillion News... Ugh
466B66777061763635040 wrote: Now would be a good time to go make an attempt to sign a guy like Dallas Keuchel but since this Owner and GM will make every excuse in the world not to do so no way it will ever happen. This is a move in all seriousness that the Pirates need to consider with Taillon being down for an entire month. They're not gonna be able to survive with the guys they have right now they aren’t good enough.
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
some team out of the running should sign him and deal him at deadline (assuming he is pitching well).
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
some team out of the running should sign him and deal him at deadline (assuming he is pitching well).
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Bobster21
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Brault and Kingham were named to replace Taillon and Archer. Brault pitches Tuesday and Kingham pitches Wednesday vs Texas. Ugh.
https://triblive.com/sports/pirates-ste ... is-archer/
https://triblive.com/sports/pirates-ste ... is-archer/
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DemDog
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0C212C3D3A2B3C7C7F4E0 wrote: Now would be a good time to go make an attempt to sign a guy like Dallas Keuchel but since this Owner and GM will make every excuse in the world not to do so no way it will ever happen. This is a move in all seriousness that the Pirates need to consider with Taillon being down for an entire month. They're not gonna be able to survive with the guys they have right now they aren’t good enough.
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
Thanks, Bobster for clearing up the compensation question I brought up. I agree losing a 3rd rounder is not such a big deal. But does it make sense for the Bucs with so many problems with the offense as well as the pitching spend the money and the draft choice? This is a team that at best could luck out and be a wild card team.
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
Thanks, Bobster for clearing up the compensation question I brought up. I agree losing a 3rd rounder is not such a big deal. But does it make sense for the Bucs with so many problems with the offense as well as the pitching spend the money and the draft choice? This is a team that at best could luck out and be a wild card team.
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Bobster21
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64454D644F47200 wrote: Now would be a good time to go make an attempt to sign a guy like Dallas Keuchel but since this Owner and GM will make every excuse in the world not to do so no way it will ever happen. This is a move in all seriousness that the Pirates need to consider with Taillon being down for an entire month. They're not gonna be able to survive with the guys they have right now they aren’t good enough.
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
Thanks, Bobster for clearing up the compensation question I brought up. I agree losing a 3rd rounder is not such a big deal. But does it make sense for the Bucs with so many problems with the offense as well as the pitching spend the money and the draft choice? This is a team that at best could luck out and be a wild card team.
That's what I'm saying. TBMTIB would surely explain to Nutting that signing Keuchel wouldn't make enough of a difference to pursue it. Not that he'd want to spend the money anyway. This team isn't close enough to justify it to an owner whose wallet has to be pried open with a crowbar.
There is a problem with signing Keuchel right now. As much as the money he might want is the loss of a draft pick because he refused the tender offer he was made.
I looked that up on the MLB site.
A team that receives revenue sharing will lose its third-highest selection in the following year's Draft.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-qualifying ... c259650658
Doesn't seem like losing a 3rd round pick (or 3rd highest pick overall if they had multiple picks in the 1st and/or 2nd) would be prohibitive. Heck, look at some of their 1st round picks: Sanchez, Newman, McGuire, Connor Joe. Losing a 3rd rounder shouldn't matter. But Nutting has a serious allergy to spending money. And I'm sure his mgt team will explain to him that the Pirates aren't going far with or without Keuchel. I'm sure that's a signing that's not going to happen.
Thanks, Bobster for clearing up the compensation question I brought up. I agree losing a 3rd rounder is not such a big deal. But does it make sense for the Bucs with so many problems with the offense as well as the pitching spend the money and the draft choice? This is a team that at best could luck out and be a wild card team.
That's what I'm saying. TBMTIB would surely explain to Nutting that signing Keuchel wouldn't make enough of a difference to pursue it. Not that he'd want to spend the money anyway. This team isn't close enough to justify it to an owner whose wallet has to be pried open with a crowbar.
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CarolinaBucco
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This is EXACTLY why i scream every year that you need to go into a season with AT LEAST seven legit, viable MLB caliber starters. Not 4 ! Not letting Nova walk to save pennies.
There are ALWAYS going to be injuries.
And there are ALWAYS going to be pitchers who under-perform.
The Pirates always seem content to have 4 good starters, 5 at most.
Drives me nuts ...
There are ALWAYS going to be injuries.
And there are ALWAYS going to be pitchers who under-perform.
The Pirates always seem content to have 4 good starters, 5 at most.
Drives me nuts ...
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SteadyFreddy
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Looks like both Brault and Kingham will take the place of Taillon and Archer as they will start Tuesday and Wednesday against the Rangers here at PNC Park according to Clint Hurdle after the game last night. So there is your replacements for Taillon for now.
Taillion News... Ugh
Won't throw at all for 4 weeks.
That's the season boys. Better luck next year.
That's the season boys. Better luck next year.
Taillion News... Ugh
Is it just me, or does this kind of stuff always seem to happen to the Pirates? If Taillon “didn’t feel right since Spring Training, why not take care of it then? Why keep trying to pitch through it? Injuries are inevitable. But this is ridiculous...Polanco, Marte, Dickerson, Diaz, Gonzalez, Chisenhall, Newman, Archer, Taillon, Burdi, Kuhl, Santana, Crick, and now Kela. It’s amazing the Indianapolis Pirates have even won one game, let alone played .500 ball.