Off Season

shedman · Post by **shedman** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:29 pm

427760606B5260606B6C60050 wrote: One thing is for sure this team is not going to be very good next season either but one thing Cherrington needs to do and Nutting needs to okay this obviously which he probably won’t is spend some more damn money and go sign 2 or 3 free agents. Maybe 2 starting pitchers and one position player. The starting pitching on this team right now until guys like Priester, Mlodzinski, and Contreras arrive the next year or two just to name a few is non existent and needs help. I guess you can go into next season with Brault, Wilson and maybe Brubaker in the rotation but aside from that they gotta go out and spend some money and bring in some damn players who can pitch.

BC loves the race for last place which brings the excitement of the draft. Plus, Nutting loves the profits. Both seem quite comfortable losing.

What's adding one more year to the mirage we all call "the window."

Why bring in free agents when we can look forward to the pieces we get for Stallings and with the window slipping, of course Reynolds.

Excuse me for being salty, but I've really tired of the Quad A tryout team we continue to field. My kids will soon be visiting my gravesite to whisper to the grass, "Dad the Pirates finally look like they are good again."

You can always freak them out. Here's what to get your ghost to whisper BACK: "No, they'll be good in FIVE years!"

Cha-CHING!

Punt. Sell That Future.

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We already have someone who has kicked the can down the road until 2025 for the year that we will be good. We need someone to strep up and put their toes in the water and kick the can down the road until 2026 for the year that we will be good.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:32 pm

Cut out the middleman. Whatever year it is, add five years to it. We'll be up to 2027 soon enough.

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:48 pm

4E555859505C533D0 wrote: Who will be the participants of the esteemed panel?
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You, Wildwood, and I would make a very distinguished and esteemed panel.
Well my middle initial is J it stands for jgenius (the j is silent). How much do I get paid?

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:51 pm

122730303B0230303B3C30550 wrote: Who will be the participants of the esteemed panel?
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You, Wildwood, and I would make a very distinguished and esteemed panel.

Thanks a lot for that.

I bet that if you did a Recap of this past off-season's final point standings, we didn't do a bad job with respect to the current standings.

I say that for 2022, we should expand it to a separate Trade Deadline Thread.

You guys did a great job. If Shed would rather stick with last year's esteemed panel I have no problem stepping aside

Surgnbuck · Post by **Surgnbuck** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:53 pm

4174636368516363686F63060 wrote: One thing is for sure this team is not going to be very good next season either but one thing Cherrington needs to do and Nutting needs to okay this obviously which he probably won’t is spend some more damn money and go sign 2 or 3 free agents. Maybe 2 starting pitchers and one position player. The starting pitching on this team right now until guys like Priester, Mlodzinski, and Contreras arrive the next year or two just to name a few is non existent and needs help. I guess you can go into next season with Brault, Wilson and maybe Brubaker in the rotation but aside from that they gotta go out and spend some money and bring in some damn players who can pitch.

BC loves the race for last place which brings the excitement of the draft. Plus, Nutting loves the profits. Both seem quite comfortable losing.

What's adding one more year to the mirage we all call "the window."

Why bring in free agents when we can look forward to the pieces we get for Stallings and with the window slipping, of course Reynolds.

Excuse me for being salty, but I've really tired of the Quad A tryout team we continue to field. My kids will soon be visiting my gravesite to whisper to the grass, "Dad the Pirates finally look like they are good again."

You can always freak them out. Here's what to get your ghost to whisper BACK: "No, they'll be good in FIVE years!"

Cha-CHING!

Punt. Sell That Future.

Duh of course everything happens 5 years later in the Burgh like music clothes and cable TV. That's why if you hear the end of the world is coming move to Pittsburgh.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:47 pm

Five?

More like 50. That makes it even better.

WildwoodDave2 · Post by **WildwoodDave2** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:08 pm

7E585F4A434F584E462D0 wrote: Who will be the participants of the esteemed panel?
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You, Wildwood, and I would make a very distinguished and esteemed panel.

Thanks a lot for that.

I bet that if you did a Recap of this past off-season's final point standings, we didn't do a bad job with respect to the current standings.

I say that for 2022, we should expand it to a separate Trade Deadline Thread.

You guys did a great job. If Shed would rather stick with last year's esteemed panel I have no problem stepping aside
Certainly no need for that- the more the better

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:36 pm

I'll bow out. NBD.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:35 pm

The Brav-o's don't wait for the off-season to start. They extend Charlie Morton for a year. Only cost them $20 mil.

SCBucco · Post by **SCBucco** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:59 pm

446964757263743437060 wrote: One thing is for sure this team is not going to be very good next season either but one thing Cherrington needs to do and Nutting needs to okay this obviously which he probably won’t is spend some more damn money and go sign 2 or 3 free agents. Maybe 2 starting pitchers and one position player. The starting pitching on this team right now until guys like Priester, Mlodzinski, and Contreras arrive the next year or two just to name a few is non existent and needs help. I guess you can go into next season with Brault, Wilson and maybe Brubaker in the rotation but aside from that they gotta go out and spend some money and bring in some damn players who can pitch.
Pitching will definitely be the problem. But I don't see good FA pitchers choosing the Pirates even if a competitive offer was made. They will probably have to settle for a Tyler Anderson type.

But the minors are looking good for position players within the next 2 years with Mason Martin (1B), Nick Gonzales (2B), Liover Peguero (SS), Henry Davis (C), Oneil Cruz (SS, OF), Rodolfo Castro (inf), Matt Fraizer (OF) and maybe Ji-hwan Bae, Canaan Smith-Njigba, Calvin Mitchell, Jack Suwinski, Travis Swaggerty.

I think we should start seeing some of those guys next year and a lot more in 2023 instead of always scanning the waiver wire for guys like Tom, Stokes, Fowler and Nogowski or DFA'ing someone and then having no other choice but to call him back (Craig).

Feel we need to sign two arms for the rotation. Our rotation looks terrible heading into next year if Brault is the designated one. Need to get another Anderson type in which they can hold their own and you deal at the dead line for more assets. Do you take a flier on James Paxton or Jose Quintana?