042924353223347477460 wrote: Tallion gives up a 2 run HR in top of first.
His inconsistency is surprising and very disappointing. Not much difference in expectation between a 1-1 (Cole) and a 1-2 (Tallion), is there?
Maybe Taillon needs to go to the Astros.
Maybe the Pirates need to turn him into a pitch-to-contact sinker ball pitcher: the Brewers are hitting him HARD. He’s lucky to only be down 3 runs.
Man, he’s been as disappointing as Bell.
That's disappointing. I expected Taillon to become another one of those outstanding starting pitchers developed under the watch of the great guru Ray Searage like.....uh...wait a minute...uh...I'm sure there's somebody....like...uh...I'm sure it'll come to me. Oh! Oh! I got it! Oops, no never mind. Maybe...nah. Well, maybe Tailon will be the first. Maybe.
Don’t forget Frankie. Ray turned Frankie into an All Star the Pirates were able to flip in a trade with the Jays....never mind.
We’ll think of somebody.
Seriously, while Ray has had some success briefly resurrecting careers of previously successful pitchers, no young starting pitcher has come thru the system and become a true star. At least not until going to Houston.
JA Happ? But any success Ray has had must be balanced against Charlie and Garrett - guys he totally mishandled.
And if the Pirate pitching Philosophy and uncle Ray are not able to turn dust-bin reclamation projects into quality starters, then the Pirate’s Philosophy has been gutted.
Happ was another who had once been successful and fell on hard times before Searage "fixed" him. But I'm talking about young rookies coming thru the system with no prior track record. How many of them have become star pitchers under Searage? Zero?
zero is right answer, how much of it is on Ray I don't know. We could be drafting the wrong pitchers or developing them wrong in the minors. Still having an overall number one and number 2 picks and not getting an ace (except for 1 year of Cole) doesn't help the team.
Tuesday game thread: Tallion faces Brewers
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745253445242310 wrote: Tallion gives up a 2 run HR in top of first.
His inconsistency is surprising and very disappointing. Not much difference in expectation between a 1-1 (Cole) and a 1-2 (Tallion), is there?
Maybe Taillon needs to go to the Astros.
Maybe the Pirates need to turn him into a pitch-to-contact sinker ball pitcher: the Brewers are hitting him HARD. He’s lucky to only be down 3 runs.
Man, he’s been as disappointing as Bell.
That's disappointing. I expected Taillon to become another one of those outstanding starting pitchers developed under the watch of the great guru Ray Searage like.....uh...wait a minute...uh...I'm sure there's somebody....like...uh...I'm sure it'll come to me. Oh! Oh! I got it! Oops, no never mind. Maybe...nah. Well, maybe Tailon will be the first. Maybe.
Don’t forget Frankie. Ray turned Frankie into an All Star the Pirates were able to flip in a trade with the Jays....never mind.
We’ll think of somebody.
Seriously, while Ray has had some success briefly resurrecting careers of previously successful pitchers, no young starting pitcher has come thru the system and become a true star. At least not until going to Houston.
JA Happ? But any success Ray has had must be balanced against Charlie and Garrett - guys he totally mishandled.
And if the Pirate pitching Philosophy and uncle Ray are not able to turn dust-bin reclamation projects into quality starters, then the Pirate’s Philosophy has been gutted.
Happ was another who had once been successful and fell on hard times before Searage "fixed" him. But I'm talking about young rookies coming thru the system with no prior track record. How many of them have become star pitchers under Searage? Zero?
zero is right answer, how much of it is on Ray I don't know. We could be drafting the wrong pitchers or developing them wrong in the minors. Still having an overall number one and number 2 picks and not getting an ace (except for 1 year of Cole) doesn't help the team.
Kulh and Williams? Maybe a few guys with low expectations that have “developed” into back end guys?
His inconsistency is surprising and very disappointing. Not much difference in expectation between a 1-1 (Cole) and a 1-2 (Tallion), is there?
Maybe Taillon needs to go to the Astros.
Maybe the Pirates need to turn him into a pitch-to-contact sinker ball pitcher: the Brewers are hitting him HARD. He’s lucky to only be down 3 runs.
Man, he’s been as disappointing as Bell.
That's disappointing. I expected Taillon to become another one of those outstanding starting pitchers developed under the watch of the great guru Ray Searage like.....uh...wait a minute...uh...I'm sure there's somebody....like...uh...I'm sure it'll come to me. Oh! Oh! I got it! Oops, no never mind. Maybe...nah. Well, maybe Tailon will be the first. Maybe.
Don’t forget Frankie. Ray turned Frankie into an All Star the Pirates were able to flip in a trade with the Jays....never mind.
We’ll think of somebody.
Seriously, while Ray has had some success briefly resurrecting careers of previously successful pitchers, no young starting pitcher has come thru the system and become a true star. At least not until going to Houston.
JA Happ? But any success Ray has had must be balanced against Charlie and Garrett - guys he totally mishandled.
And if the Pirate pitching Philosophy and uncle Ray are not able to turn dust-bin reclamation projects into quality starters, then the Pirate’s Philosophy has been gutted.
Happ was another who had once been successful and fell on hard times before Searage "fixed" him. But I'm talking about young rookies coming thru the system with no prior track record. How many of them have become star pitchers under Searage? Zero?
zero is right answer, how much of it is on Ray I don't know. We could be drafting the wrong pitchers or developing them wrong in the minors. Still having an overall number one and number 2 picks and not getting an ace (except for 1 year of Cole) doesn't help the team.
Kulh and Williams? Maybe a few guys with low expectations that have “developed” into back end guys?
Tuesday game thread: Tallion faces Brewers
Extremely annoying to have half an inning on TV spent talking and interviewing a guy who lost a beer to a foul ball (his own fault)
Come on. They again, if the brodcasts become dumb enough, perhaps it would increase attendance a hair. Idk
Come on. They again, if the brodcasts become dumb enough, perhaps it would increase attendance a hair. Idk
Tuesday game thread: Tallion faces Brewers
Great results Glasnow. Showing some real signs of life as a pen pitcher. Keep it going.
Oh sorry AT&T SN, I guess talking about a could ball hitting a beer for a half inning is better.
Oh sorry AT&T SN, I guess talking about a could ball hitting a beer for a half inning is better.
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Watching the Brewers: how have they managed to run a young, good looking, top of the rotation guy out?
How have they found another “Prince Fielder” when the pirates haven’t had a true 1st base in anyone’s memory?
How have they found another “Prince Fielder” when the pirates haven’t had a true 1st base in anyone’s memory?
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Two outstanding ABs by Bell and Polanco result in 1st and 3rd, 2 outs with Jordy up.
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RBI Jordy!
2nd and 3rd with Meadows up. 2 outs.
2nd and 3rd with Meadows up. 2 outs.
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Tuesday game thread: Tallion faces Brewers
232A22333D470 wrote: Extremely annoying to have half an inning on TV spent talking and interviewing a guy who lost a beer to a foul ball (his own fault)
Come on. They again, if the broadcasts become dumb enough, perhaps it would increase attendance a hair. Idk
I've noticed that every broadcast contains a never ending lame attempt at comedy. Seems like this must be encouraged in the production meetings. The idea being to provide the fans with something to entertain them instead of a winning team.
Come on. They again, if the broadcasts become dumb enough, perhaps it would increase attendance a hair. Idk
I've noticed that every broadcast contains a never ending lame attempt at comedy. Seems like this must be encouraged in the production meetings. The idea being to provide the fans with something to entertain them instead of a winning team.
Tuesday game thread: Tallion faces Brewers
It's always been unfortunate that we couldn't sit Mercer every year until around mid May. The guy is a pretty decent hitting shortstop when the weather warms and terrible until then.
If he somehow stays, he should only start vs lefties until memorial day
If he somehow stays, he should only start vs lefties until memorial day