Game Thread - 9/25 - Bucs vs Cubs

[2drfischer@gmail.c]

66434040557E434B495E2C0 wrote: If I didn’t know any better, I’d guess that after this recent losing streak has placed the Pirates only behind the Nationals for the worst record in baseball, there’s now a renewed effort to lose as many games as possible in order to improve their chances for a higher pick.


My understanding is that starting next year the bottom three teams will all have the same shot at the #1 pool. The A's, Pirates, and Nats have a pretty good grip on those three slots right now.




Thanks.  I knew there was a change to the structure, but I thought the worst team had more chances, the second worst had a few less, and so on.




Babe is correct. The 3 teams with the worst record all have the same percentage of getting the number 1 pick. I think 16.5%.

Although the Pirates have a good shot of finishing 1, 2 or 3; they could also fall to #7


I stand corrected. Losing more games is just coming naturally. :'(

[WildwoodDave2]

174157434C56464D4057654248444C490B46250 wrote: If I didn’t know any better, I’d guess that after this recent losing streak has placed the Pirates only behind the Nationals for the worst record in baseball, there’s now a renewed effort to lose as many games as possible in order to improve their chances for a higher pick.


My understanding is that starting next year the bottom three teams will all have the same shot at the #1 pool. The A's, Pirates, and Nats have a pretty good grip on those three slots right now.




Thanks.  I knew there was a change to the structure, but I thought the worst team had more chances, the second worst had a few less, and so on.




Babe is correct. The 3 teams with the worst record all have the same percentage of getting the number 1 pick. I think 16.5%.

Although the Pirates have a good shot of finishing 1, 2 or 3; they could also fall to #7


I stand corrected.  Losing more games is just coming naturally.   :'(


losing more games comes naturally to Shelton

[WildwoodDave2]

Bucs committed 4 errors in the game

2 by Cruz ( proof again that he has to be moved)

2 by Delay

[Bobster21]

133534233525560 wrote: What an absolute disgrace for Fan Appreciation Day. There was obviously no interest in winning this game. Disgusting.


just saw Delay now has been charged with 9 errors.  That isn't good.



Tried to look fielding stats up on mlb.com and couldn't find any (other with individual player records).  Just hitting and pitching stats were the choices.
Here you go.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leag ... ding.shtml

[Bobster21]

With 2 more errors, Cruz now has the 2nd most errors in the NL at SS with 15. Brandon Crawford and Trea Turner both have 16. But Turner has played 1,307 innings at SS and Crawford has played 916. Cruz has only played 623 innings at SS.

[ArnoldRothstein]

Cruz is 12th in innings at short in the NL, 11th in total chances, 8th in putouts, 13th in assists, 3rd in errors, 10th in DPs. Higher fielding percentage than Castillo, Newman or Castro. Ditto range factor. BB-Ref has him with 0.5 dWAR, 1 fielding run above replacement.



Edit: I don't know if anyone goes for range factor anymore, but BB-Ref has Cruz leading the NL among guys who have played 100 innings at the position.

[Bobster21]

72415D5C5F57615C475B4047565A5D330 wrote: Cruz is 12th in innings at short in the NL, 11th in total chances, 8th in putouts, 13th in assists, 3rd in errors, 10th in DPs. Higher fielding percentage than Castillo, Newman or Castro. Ditto range factor. BB-Ref has him with 0.5 dWAR, 1 fielding run above replacement.



Edit: I don't know if anyone goes for range factor anymore, but BB-Ref has Cruz leading the NL among guys who have played 100 innings at the position.
He's got good range at SS and a great arm. But he's very inconsistent. His errors all seem to come on routine plays. SS is too important a position to always have to fear that errors will result from routine plays.

[Ecbucs]

4C616C7D7A6B7C3C3F0E0 wrote: What an absolute disgrace for Fan Appreciation Day. There was obviously no interest in winning this game. Disgusting.


just saw Delay now has been charged with 9 errors.  That isn't good.



Tried to look fielding stats up on mlb.com and couldn't find any (other with individual player records).  Just hitting and pitching stats were the choices.
Here you go.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leag ... ding.shtml




thanks, since mlb.com doesn't carry this, I guess they don't think it is important.

[Ecbucs]

1E333E2F28392E6E6D5C0 wrote: Cruz is 12th in innings at short in the NL, 11th in total chances, 8th in putouts, 13th in assists, 3rd in errors, 10th in DPs. Higher fielding percentage than Castillo, Newman or Castro. Ditto range factor. BB-Ref has him with 0.5 dWAR, 1 fielding run above replacement.



Edit: I don't know if anyone goes for range factor anymore, but BB-Ref has Cruz leading the NL among guys who have played 100 innings at the position.
He's got good range at SS and a great arm. But he's very inconsistent. His errors all seem to come on routine plays. SS is too important a position to always have to fear that errors will result from routine plays.


I agree about fearing errors from routine plays. However, I think it is worth a shot for Cruz to play more there and see if he reduces his errors next season.

[Ecbucs]

7F59584F59493A0 wrote: What an absolute disgrace for Fan Appreciation Day. There was obviously no interest in winning this game. Disgusting.


just saw Delay now has been charged with 9 errors.  That isn't good.



Tried to look fielding stats up on mlb.com and couldn't find any (other with individual player records).  Just hitting and pitching stats were the choices.
Here you go.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leag ... ding.shtml




thanks, since mlb.com doesn't carry this, I guess they don't think it is important. Average numbers of errors for catching position is 10. Delay has 9 in about 1/3 of games.