Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
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Bobster21
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
In 1967 Orioles LHP had a 1-0 lead and a no-hitter against the Tigers after 8 innings. But Barber had yielded 7 walks. In the top of the 9th Barber walked the first 2 batters and they advanced on a sac bunt. After a popup to the catcher for the 2nd out, the game was tied when Barber threw a wild pitch with the other runner going to 3B. Barber than walked his 10th batter. Stu Miller than replaced Barber and appeared to get the 3rd out on a grounder to SS Luis Aparicio but his throw to 2B for the force was dropped by rookie Mark Belanger, who had entered that inning for defense at 2B. That allowed the 2nd run of the inning to score. Miller than got the 3rd out and the Orioles failed to score in the bottom of the 9th. Barber and Miller combined for a 9 inning no-hitter but lost 2-1. The Orioles had the only 2 hits of the game.
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JollyRoger
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Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
I was in Vegas this weekend for our annual golf tournament. On Sunday when I was in the casino watching the Pirate game wearing my Pirate cap and Penguins jersey; I struck up a conversation with a guy wearing a Mets cap (fortunately he was not a Rangers fan).
Anyway he tells me that he made a wager that there would be a no-hitter in MLB on Sunday. I said that was a crazy bet and it must have had huge odds. He said it did but he only put $20 on the bet.
Here’s the kicker. Even though the Pirates were no hit; it did not count as an official 9 inning no hitter because the Reds pitchers only pitched 8 innings and not 9. He lost the bet!!
Anyway he tells me that he made a wager that there would be a no-hitter in MLB on Sunday. I said that was a crazy bet and it must have had huge odds. He said it did but he only put $20 on the bet.
Here’s the kicker. Even though the Pirates were no hit; it did not count as an official 9 inning no hitter because the Reds pitchers only pitched 8 innings and not 9. He lost the bet!!
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WildwoodDave2
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
113437372209343C3E295B0 wrote: I was in Vegas this weekend for our annual golf tournament. On Sunday when I was in the casino watching the Pirate game wearing my Pirate cap and Penguins jersey; I struck up a conversation with a guy wearing a Mets cap (fortunately he was not a Rangers fan).
Anyway he tells me that he made a wager that there would be a no-hitter in MLB on Sunday. I said that was a crazy bet and it must have had huge odds. He said it did but he only put $20 on the bet.
Here’s the kicker. Even though the Pirates were no hit; it did not count as an official 9 inning no hitter because the Reds pitchers only pitched 8 innings and not 9. He lost the bet!!
Vegas gets you one way or another
Anyway he tells me that he made a wager that there would be a no-hitter in MLB on Sunday. I said that was a crazy bet and it must have had huge odds. He said it did but he only put $20 on the bet.
Here’s the kicker. Even though the Pirates were no hit; it did not count as an official 9 inning no hitter because the Reds pitchers only pitched 8 innings and not 9. He lost the bet!!
Vegas gets you one way or another
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Bobster21
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
I hope the Pirates don't try the same strategy again tonight. Shelton will probably minimize the risk of getting a hit by keeping VanMeter in the lineup. 
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
694449585F4E59191A2B0 wrote: I hope the Pirates don't try the same strategy again tonight. Shelton will probably minimize the risk of getting a hit by keeping VanMeter in the lineup.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
416760757C70677179120 wrote: I hope the Pirates don't try the same strategy again tonight. Shelton will probably minimize the risk of getting a hit by keeping VanMeter in the lineup.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
Maybe he is getting a yinzer pass, he is getting a pass from me because I still expect him to put together a great season.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
Maybe he is getting a yinzer pass, he is getting a pass from me because I still expect him to put together a great season.
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Bobster21
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
4A6C6B7E777B6C7A72190 wrote: I hope the Pirates don't try the same strategy again tonight. Shelton will probably minimize the risk of getting a hit by keeping VanMeter in the lineup.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
Reynolds' prolonged slump is certainly one of many things hurting the team. But I'm not going to start bashing Shelton for playing him because he's shown the kind of player he can be. But I would move him to the lower part of the lineup for the time being. He was a consistent .300+ hitter at every minor league level and, when called up to the Pirates in early 2019 due to injuries to OFers, he immediately started hitting and never stopped. As a rookie he hit .314 with 16 HRs and a .377 OBP. He had an awful season in 2020 but so did a lot of normally good hitting major leaguers. It was a bizarre 60 game season with no fans, piped in noise, numerous last minute covid postponements and countless covid restrictions and distractions. With a normal season in 2021, he bounced right back hitting .302 with 24 HRs, 90 RBIs and a .390 OBP. It's frustrating seeing him failing to hit now but he's proven what an outstanding hitter he can be. So there's reason to believe it's just a matter of time before he starts hitting again. And if Reynolds made any "snide sideways comments about his contract status" or "loved getting yinzers bashing management" about his arbitration situation, I must have missed it.
It's different with VanMeter. He's hitting .180. Not even as good as Reynolds' disappointing .209. VanMeter's career BA is .209 and his career best was .237. While Reynolds struggles, we are waiting for him to hit because we know he can. While VanMeter struggles, we are not waiting for him to hit because he has never been able to. He is simply a marginal player with little potential who never seems as good as whoever is on the bench. There is nothing to be gained by starting VanMeter. His ceiling is very low. There is something to be gained by playing Reynolds because he's proven he has the skills to be an outstanding hitter.
Yoshi is another one who was counted on to produce this year but has disappointed. He did well in a SSS for the Pirates last year after being a flop for both TB and LA. The fear now about him is that the SSS with the Pirates last year was more of a fluke and the real Yoshi is the one who failed with 2 other organizations and so far this season with the Pirates. People are waiting for Reynolds to hit like his track record shows he can. But with Yoshi at this point it's unclear if his track record indicates he can hit (in 127 ABs as a Pirate last season) or cannot hit based on everything he's done before and since that brief period.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
Reynolds' prolonged slump is certainly one of many things hurting the team. But I'm not going to start bashing Shelton for playing him because he's shown the kind of player he can be. But I would move him to the lower part of the lineup for the time being. He was a consistent .300+ hitter at every minor league level and, when called up to the Pirates in early 2019 due to injuries to OFers, he immediately started hitting and never stopped. As a rookie he hit .314 with 16 HRs and a .377 OBP. He had an awful season in 2020 but so did a lot of normally good hitting major leaguers. It was a bizarre 60 game season with no fans, piped in noise, numerous last minute covid postponements and countless covid restrictions and distractions. With a normal season in 2021, he bounced right back hitting .302 with 24 HRs, 90 RBIs and a .390 OBP. It's frustrating seeing him failing to hit now but he's proven what an outstanding hitter he can be. So there's reason to believe it's just a matter of time before he starts hitting again. And if Reynolds made any "snide sideways comments about his contract status" or "loved getting yinzers bashing management" about his arbitration situation, I must have missed it.
It's different with VanMeter. He's hitting .180. Not even as good as Reynolds' disappointing .209. VanMeter's career BA is .209 and his career best was .237. While Reynolds struggles, we are waiting for him to hit because we know he can. While VanMeter struggles, we are not waiting for him to hit because he has never been able to. He is simply a marginal player with little potential who never seems as good as whoever is on the bench. There is nothing to be gained by starting VanMeter. His ceiling is very low. There is something to be gained by playing Reynolds because he's proven he has the skills to be an outstanding hitter.
Yoshi is another one who was counted on to produce this year but has disappointed. He did well in a SSS for the Pirates last year after being a flop for both TB and LA. The fear now about him is that the SSS with the Pirates last year was more of a fluke and the real Yoshi is the one who failed with 2 other organizations and so far this season with the Pirates. People are waiting for Reynolds to hit like his track record shows he can. But with Yoshi at this point it's unclear if his track record indicates he can hit (in 127 ABs as a Pirate last season) or cannot hit based on everything he's done before and since that brief period.
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skinnyhorse
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Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
7E585F4A434F584E462D0 wrote: I hope the Pirates don't try the same strategy again tonight. Shelton will probably minimize the risk of getting a hit by keeping VanMeter in the lineup.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
It's past time for Reynolds to step it up. He's killing this team him and Yoshi. Maybe he should have taken the long term deal as at this rate he'll be lucky to even get minimum salary after his contract runs out.
VanMeter is 4 for his last 15.
Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, is 0 for his last 14.
VanMeter has 4 RBI in 61 AB, most coming from the bottom of the order. Reynolds, who no one criticizes on this board other than me, has all of 6 RBI in 115 AB's, most of them coming hitting second or third.
Yeah, VanMeter, I agree is no wonderkind. His defense has been better then Reynolds, who seemingly is incapable of reading a bounce off the outfield wall.
I dare say for all the flack VanMeter gets on the board, he's done a shitload more lately to help the team win then Reynolds.
Guess all his snide sideways comments about his contract status, which incidentally is part of the CBA, you know, the arbitration process, is coming back to bite him in the ass. But he loved getting yinzers bashing management about "only 625K" and never once simply said no big deal it's the process.
Once all the yinzers were shut up and put back to the closet, not a peep from them about the enormous raise he received. Yinzers even tried spinning that!
Maybe 2020 is the real Reynolds. I hope he starts hitting. Despite a nice start as far as hits goes for may, he still has only driven in himself with 2 home runs. Even during his little hitting streak, he consistently SUCKED when there were men on base, runners in scoring position, only to strikeout, hit into double plays, pop out to short.
Time to start banging on the REAL problem with the Pirates offense. Number 10. His robin to his batman is Yoshi.
Oh, but I've seen criticism of Yoshi. Guess Reynolds gets the yinzer pass.
It's past time for Reynolds to step it up. He's killing this team him and Yoshi. Maybe he should have taken the long term deal as at this rate he'll be lucky to even get minimum salary after his contract runs out.
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Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
Reynolds is really struggling these first 6 weeks into the season. I think he is something like 1for 26 with runners in scoring position. He has hit well during most of his career, so you hope he soon begins to get out of this slump. I keep watching him, and following Cruz, and Gonzales in the minors who I hope will be part of a future winning Pirates team, and all 3 have had their struggles as they begin this season.
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Bobster21
Game Thread - 5/15 - Bucs vs Reds
555958030A030B06011E04330 wrote: Reynolds is really struggling these first 6 weeks into the season. I think he is something like 1for 26 with runners in scoring position. He has hit well during most of his career, so you hope he soon begins to get out of this slump. I keep watching him, and following Cruz, and Gonzales in the minors who I hope will be part of a future winning Pirates team, and all 3 have had their struggles as they begin this season.
A lot of players throughout MLB seem to be struggling. Here are a few of those below the Mendoza line: Max Muncy, Matt Chapman, Nelson Cruz, Kyle Schwarber, Trevor Story, Jose Abreu, Jorge Soler, Whit Merrifield. It's a long list. Marcell Ozuna is only at .206. Justin Turner is at .205. I don't know why so many players are so below their usual BA. Meanwhile, there are others who are thriving. On the Pirates, Hayes and Gamel are doing very well.
A lot of players throughout MLB seem to be struggling. Here are a few of those below the Mendoza line: Max Muncy, Matt Chapman, Nelson Cruz, Kyle Schwarber, Trevor Story, Jose Abreu, Jorge Soler, Whit Merrifield. It's a long list. Marcell Ozuna is only at .206. Justin Turner is at .205. I don't know why so many players are so below their usual BA. Meanwhile, there are others who are thriving. On the Pirates, Hayes and Gamel are doing very well.