Baz sent to Rays as PTBNL

JollyRoger · Post by **JollyRoger** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:29 pm

Trade becomes tilted in Rays favor

Ouch!

Osushawn · Post by **Osushawn** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:34 pm

290C0F0F1A310C040611630 wrote: Trade becomes tilted in Rays favor

Ouch!

Think we may need to wait a few years to say that yet. Baz is still a long ways away from making the bigs.

SammyKhalifa · Post by **SammyKhalifa** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:35 pm

566A6C6A71786E77190 wrote: Trade becomes tilted in Rays favor

Ouch!

Think we may need to wait a few years to say that yet. Baz is still a long ways away from making the bigs.

it's not great . . .

JollyRoger · Post by **JollyRoger** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:37 pm

Considering that both Meadows and Glasnow were once our #1 prospects and Baz is number 4; plus Rays gain about 17 years of player control to 3 year for Archer; I can say we gave up too much.

SammyKhalifa · Post by **SammyKhalifa** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:38 pm

1E3B38382D063B333126540 wrote: Considering that both Meadows and Glasnow were once our #1 prospects and Baz is number 4; plus Rays gain about 17 years of player control to 3 year for Archer; I can say we gave up too much.

it seems to be what people say they want though

Ecbucs · Post by **Ecbucs** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:41 pm

glad to get this one selected, glad Cruz wasn't the player.

Wish Baz good luck.

mouse · Post by **mouse** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:46 pm

Exactly. When you get a name player at deadline, you have to understand you will overpay, and when dealing the Rays, you have to really overpay. That's why they've been looking at offers for several years. In the end, though, the Pirates (and the fans) wanted a strong starting pitcher and Archer is presumably that. So they are paying a premium here, but the key is whether they get what they wanted with Archer. For our sake, we hope Archer is that strong starter, a companion piece to Taillon.

Osushawn · Post by **Osushawn** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:49 pm

0C292A2A3F1429212334460 wrote: Considering that both Meadows and Glasnow were once our #1 prospects and Baz is number 4; plus Rays gain about 17 years of player control to 3 year for Archer; I can say we gave up too much.

And if none of the three pan out, we lost nothing. We had 17 years of control over Jose Tabata as well, what did we get from that? Look at Reese Mcguire, no loss there and it appears Ramirez may be the better for the two we gave up there. I understand your perspective, but I am unwilling to say we lost the trade until we see what these guys do.

JollyRoger · Post by **JollyRoger** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:56 pm

5A7C7D6A7C6C1F0 wrote: glad to get this one selected, glad Cruz wasn't the player.

Wish Baz good luck.
I am also glad that we hung on to Cruz. I think he will be special

fjk090852-7 · Post by **fjk090852-7** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:59 pm

I will take this rotation next June. Taillon, Archer, Musgrove, Williams and Keller. If there are no injuries that is a strong rotation.