Would anyone want this two starting in 2018? What about a 3B Platoon (Frazier at 2B , Harrison at 3B)?
Part of me feels now is the time to start them to see what they can do. The other part of me feels they have a good team and need to bring in a third baseman to help the core with a veteran, known presence.
A bench of Frazier, Osuna, Freese, and Rodriguez would be a pretty strong bench in my opinion. I don't expect Kang back either.
Would you want both starting and moving Harrison. The defense would take a big hit at second base. Can Osuna play third base? Would Osuna's bat be better than a free agent (assuming Mike Moustakas or Todd Frazier won't be signed)? There are many questions about the team and these two's role. I just don't know.
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
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OrlandoMerced
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
If they were to move Harrison, I think Frazier would be the logical replacement as he can be a top of the order bat with that .344 OBP.
Osuna, starting? No, and he shouldn't be making the opening day roster.
Osuna, starting? No, and he shouldn't be making the opening day roster.
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
Osuna only plays first base, and he's not going to push Bell out of the way. I would expect him to be traded (although he is inexpensive and might make a bench bat). Frazier cannot play the infield. He can sneak by, maybe, in left, particularly if he doesn't have many chances.
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
070C04080D0C175254231A020B0C0C4D000C630 wrote: Would anyone want this two starting in 2018? What about a 3B Platoon (Frazier at 2B , Harrison at 3B)?
Part of me feels now is the time to start them to see what they can do. The other part of me feels they have a good team and need to bring in a third baseman to help the core with a veteran, known presence.
A bench of Frazier, Osuna, Freese, and Rodriguez would be a pretty strong bench in my opinion. I don't expect Kang back either.
Would you want both starting and moving Harrison. The defense would take a big hit at second base. Can Osuna play third base? Would Osuna's bat be better than a free agent (assuming Mike Moustakas or Todd Frazier won't be signed)? There are many questions about the team and these two's role. I just don't know.
I truly think JHay will be taking over 3rd and Frazier 2nd. That is unless they trade him.
Part of me feels now is the time to start them to see what they can do. The other part of me feels they have a good team and need to bring in a third baseman to help the core with a veteran, known presence.
A bench of Frazier, Osuna, Freese, and Rodriguez would be a pretty strong bench in my opinion. I don't expect Kang back either.
Would you want both starting and moving Harrison. The defense would take a big hit at second base. Can Osuna play third base? Would Osuna's bat be better than a free agent (assuming Mike Moustakas or Todd Frazier won't be signed)? There are many questions about the team and these two's role. I just don't know.
I truly think JHay will be taking over 3rd and Frazier 2nd. That is unless they trade him.
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
484A505640250 wrote: Osuna only plays first base, and he's not going to push Bell out of the way. I would expect him to be traded (although he is inexpensive and might make a bench bat). Frazier cannot play the infield. He can sneak by, maybe, in left, particularly if he doesn't have many chances.
why do you think Frazier can't sneak by in the infield? He may not be great there but he was starting shortstop in college. I think he can get by at second and is ok in the outfield. Unfortunately he doesn't have power or speed so he is someone who is replaceable.
why do you think Frazier can't sneak by in the infield? He may not be great there but he was starting shortstop in college. I think he can get by at second and is ok in the outfield. Unfortunately he doesn't have power or speed so he is someone who is replaceable.
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
He gets on base, which I like. What I've seen (no statistics to support this) would suggest it's an adventure in fielding on any ball hit to him. I don't quite have that sense when he's in the outfield. Defense up the middle is important and he just seems weak at it to me. I expect Moroff to end up at second and Frazier in left (if Cutch is traded and Marte shifted over).
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
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Harrison is very good on defense, so you can see the difference when someone like Frazier is playing second base. I do think Frazier can hit as well as Harrison and he is a good base runner. He might develop that power too.
I think Frazier's bat plays better at second base than in the outfield. His glove is going to be below average anywhere on the field. His speed makes up for bad routes in the outfield.
I think Frazier's bat plays better at second base than in the outfield. His glove is going to be below average anywhere on the field. His speed makes up for bad routes in the outfield.
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Bobster21
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It's always important to be strong defensively up the middle. You can't hide a weak defender at 2B. I like Frazier. He's a good hitter and a good leadoff guy. But he can't be the regular 2Bman. You especially don't move a good defensive 2Bman (Harrison) to 3B to make room for a weak fielder at 2B. No team says, "I don't care if we're weak at 2B as long as we have a good third baseman." They would be better off with Frazier at 3B than at 2B if it kept them strong up the middle. But I suspect Frazier will continue in his super sub role with Harrison at 2B and Rodriguez and Freese sharing 3B.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
6C414C5D5A4B5C1C1F2E0 wrote: It's always important to be strong defensively up the middle. You can't hide a weak defender at 2B. I like Frazier. He's a good hitter and a good leadoff guy. But he can't be the regular 2Bman. You especially don't move a good defensive 2Bman (Harrison) to 3B to make room for a weak fielder at 2B. No team says, "I don't care if we're weak at 2B as long as we have a good third baseman." They would be better off with Frazier at 3B than at 2B if it kept them strong up the middle. But I suspect Frazier will continue in his super sub role with Harrison at 2B and Rodriguez and Freese sharing 3B.
That's a good point, but do the Pirates agree with that philosophy? Frazier has only started three games at 3B with the Pirates. I do not know if Harrison was at 2B in those games.
If a player hits, they will find a spot for them. Frazier is no whiz with the glove anywhere you put him. But do you want his bat in the line up?
That's a good point, but do the Pirates agree with that philosophy? Frazier has only started three games at 3B with the Pirates. I do not know if Harrison was at 2B in those games.
If a player hits, they will find a spot for them. Frazier is no whiz with the glove anywhere you put him. But do you want his bat in the line up?
Adam Frazier Jose Osuna
2A21292520213A7F790E372F262121602D214E0 wrote: It's always important to be strong defensively up the middle. You can't hide a weak defender at 2B. I like Frazier. He's a good hitter and a good leadoff guy. But he can't be the regular 2Bman. You especially don't move a good defensive 2Bman (Harrison) to 3B to make room for a weak fielder at 2B. No team says, "I don't care if we're weak at 2B as long as we have a good third baseman." They would be better off with Frazier at 3B than at 2B if it kept them strong up the middle. But I suspect Frazier will continue in his super sub role with Harrison at 2B and Rodriguez and Freese sharing 3B.
That's a good point, but do the Pirates agree with that philosophy? Frazier has only started three games at 3B with the Pirates. I do not know if Harrison was at 2B in those games.
If a player hits, they will find a spot for them. Frazier is no whiz with the glove anywhere you put him. But do you want his bat in the line up?
Unless Frazier improves quite a bit on offense (and that is a real possibility) he is too weak of a hitter to be in the outfield. If he can get his OBA over 370 he could be valuable on offense and be in the outfield. He is not a great outfielder so to be a starter he has to be very good on offense.
That's a good point, but do the Pirates agree with that philosophy? Frazier has only started three games at 3B with the Pirates. I do not know if Harrison was at 2B in those games.
If a player hits, they will find a spot for them. Frazier is no whiz with the glove anywhere you put him. But do you want his bat in the line up?
Unless Frazier improves quite a bit on offense (and that is a real possibility) he is too weak of a hitter to be in the outfield. If he can get his OBA over 370 he could be valuable on offense and be in the outfield. He is not a great outfielder so to be a starter he has to be very good on offense.