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Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:32 pm

Doc wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:36 am

mouse wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:48 am Wow. Just wow. 765MM? The Dodgers (and now the Mets) are really starting to underscore the financial gap that exists in the sport. That is a lot of money for one player.

I really don't care how much money any player makes. If the owner's willing to pay the salary then I assume he's calculated that the return he's going to get will at least match the amount of the contract. But what I'd like to see is how that was determined, how Cohen's going to get all that money back. That, to me, is the interesting part of these deals.

I agree,doc. It's just too bad we have an owner who is at the opposite end of the spectrum

And that will never change.

In thinking about the Soto contract a bit more, I think he might end up regretting leaving the Yankees. If the Mets don't resign Alonso or another power hitter, why would any team ever pitch to Soto? Who in the Mets line-up is there to protect him? Why wouldn't a team walk him every time first base is open? With the Yankees, he had Judge and Stanton batting around him. He'll have nothing like that with the Mets.

He may end up walking 200 times next season. He may not hit 25 HRs, not because he'll feel the pressure of the contract, but because he doesn't get the opportunity to swing the bat much.

Think about that
Soto will get $314K per game
Almost $80K per at bat.

A lot had been said about Ohtani's contract, and how it could possibly hamstring the Dodgers down the line. You know, like the bill finally comes due like a balloon payment, and they file bankruptcy, or pass it on to a new owner. But deferring the money, the dodgers have to put the yearly amount in an escrow, and if they do that, along with what Ohtani brings to the table, they'll make that money back.

I honestly don't think people go to see Soto play, and that's what is going to be the big difference. However, the Mets didn't defer any of the money. I'm willing to bet, the Mets primary owner is going to be shelling some of his own money out on this deal.

The Mets draw well I suppose, and they do have to draw against the Yankees. I'm wondering if they think this will rebrand New Yorkers loyalties. I highly doubt it. The Yankees draw anywhere from half a million to a million more fans every season than the Mets.

Since the covid 2020 season, the Mets MLB rank in attendance has been:
2021- 13th for a 77-85 team
2022- 6th for a 101-61 team
2023- 11th for a 75-87 team
2024- 17th for a 89-73 team

I'm not saying this is the ruination of baseball. That's been predicted since back when Babe Ruth played. But I do feel that unless a few teams start winning it all with just the guys they drafted and lower tier free agents, it is going to start detracting from the game as a whole. It's starting to depress me to think that, if BOB was visited by the ghosts of baseball past, present, and future, and suddenly get to 15th in MLB (where the division rival Cardinals sit at the moment) an increase of about 100 million, it would still almost seem like spitting into the wind.

Surgnbuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:24 pm I'm not saying this is the ruination of baseball. That's been predicted since back when Babe Ruth played. But I do feel that unless a few teams start winning it all with just the guys they drafted and lower tier free agents, it is going to start detracting from the game as a whole. It's starting to depress me to think that, if BOB was visited by the ghosts of baseball past, present, and future, and suddenly get to 15th in MLB (where the division rival Cardinals sit at the moment) an increase of about 100 million, it would still almost seem like spitting into the wind.

I'm already there, Surg. It's ruining the game and it's been going on for quite a while now. Competition-wise, some teams can't compete. But beyond that, many fans are priced out too. Going to a game has become very expensive because owners are trying to mine every last cent out of the fans. And if you don't want to go to a game, you still pay higher cable rates because broadcast fees are so high. And on TV and radio, every facet of the game has a sponsor. "This pitching change is brought to you by...." The game has become wall-to-wall ads.

Some will say "more power to the owners who can afford to pay these salaries." But just because you can do something, doesn't make it right. It's ruining baseball.

Shelton on MLB just said the team is looking for a hitter more than the position the hitter would play. Also said Bednar seems to be doing well and they're expecting a good season from him next year.

I can appreciate the foreboding. This signing, as with Ohtani, just shows how baseball's out of whack. And as long as the owners in New York, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston and, to some extent, Houston, Toronto, and Atlanta, have no incentive to control themselves, they'll not stop. And as long as the owners of the bottom 12 franchises are profitable enough, they won't try to change the system. All 30 owners are complicit in letting it become this way.

Once the season begins, I try to ignore all the business stuff and focus on the games being played. It's the rule changes, like the ghost runner, the DH, the replays, the pitch clock, etc. that are chipping away at my interest. If they institute the golden at bat, that'll be my bridge too far.

Twitter reporter says buccos deep in talks with Anthony Rizzo. Wouldn't necessarily mind this if the 10 mil Chapman had goes this way on a one year deal. He is a career .298 hitter in PNC so he has that going for him.

Osushawn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:09 pm Twitter reporter says buccos deep in talks with Anthony Rizzo. Wouldn't necessarily mind this if the 10 mil Chapman had goes this way on a one year deal. He is a career .298 hitter in PNC so he has that going for him.

I wish the Pirates would sign someone a little better than Rizzo. I feel his best playing days are over. I kind of hope this rumor doesn’t become a fact.