Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
Why would you want him on another MLB team once he gets cleared? The Pirates still owe his right until 2022 unless they buy him out.
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SammyKhalifa
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Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
747F777B7E7F642127506971787F7F3E737F100 wrote: Why would you want him on another MLB team once he gets cleared? The Pirates still owe his right until 2022 unless they buy him out.
No that was under the assumption he was staying in SK
No that was under the assumption he was staying in SK
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DemDog
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
757E767A7F7E652026516870797E7E3F727E110 wrote: Why would you want him on another MLB team once he gets cleared? The Pirates still owe his right until 2022 unless they buy him out.
How do you figure out the Bucs own his rights until 2022? Please show a link if you have one where you found out this ascertation.
How do you figure out the Bucs own his rights until 2022? Please show a link if you have one where you found out this ascertation.
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
39323A363332296C6A1D243C353232733E325D0 wrote: I still wouldn't give him his release from the Pirates. Does this mean he can't play in the KBO or the Pirates won't let him?
I wouldn't release him either. With Kang, we are on the same page Dog. I'm not convinced it's over. we control his rights for 2019 as well.
Don't release him.
I don't understand why the Pirates wouldn't get back the two years he missed? I know he isn't getting paid, but he should be under control until 2021, assuming he will be eligible next year.
I think the contract terms continue, but the org doesn't have to pay it. So the years missed are gone.
There's no reason to release him, to me. He's going to get a visa eventually, maybe after his probationary 2 years is over.
I don't believe that his career is over at 30-31 years old. He was a good fielder, with a rifle arm. That alone is enough reason to hold on and at least try to see how his bat may come back around.
The contract is super team friendly even next season if he's only a good utilityman... let alone if he can actually hit well again.
I wouldn't release him either. With Kang, we are on the same page Dog. I'm not convinced it's over. we control his rights for 2019 as well.
Don't release him.
I don't understand why the Pirates wouldn't get back the two years he missed? I know he isn't getting paid, but he should be under control until 2021, assuming he will be eligible next year.
I think the contract terms continue, but the org doesn't have to pay it. So the years missed are gone.
There's no reason to release him, to me. He's going to get a visa eventually, maybe after his probationary 2 years is over.
I don't believe that his career is over at 30-31 years old. He was a good fielder, with a rifle arm. That alone is enough reason to hold on and at least try to see how his bat may come back around.
The contract is super team friendly even next season if he's only a good utilityman... let alone if he can actually hit well again.
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
616A626E6B6A713432457C646D6A6A2B666A050 wrote: Why would you want him on another MLB team once he gets cleared? The Pirates still owe his right until 2022 unless they buy him out.
nope 2019 or bust. We have to non-tender him. It's in his contract. We don't get to take advantage of his service clock and take him to arbitration after 2019. Pretty standard with foreign players.
nope 2019 or bust. We have to non-tender him. It's in his contract. We don't get to take advantage of his service clock and take him to arbitration after 2019. Pretty standard with foreign players.
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DemDog
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
I took a couple minutes and Googled and found that Dog is absolutely incorrect in his statement about the length of Kang's contract. No where do I find anything stating that it ends in 2022.
Kang's Contract from BucsDugout.
I find it interesting that after his contract is up after 2019, assuming that the Bucs would have exercised the option for that year, the Bucs would have had to non-tender him. He would not have to go through arbitration. Guess Cespedes with the Tigers has a similar clause in his contract. Go figure.
Kang's Contract from BucsDugout.
I find it interesting that after his contract is up after 2019, assuming that the Bucs would have exercised the option for that year, the Bucs would have had to non-tender him. He would not have to go through arbitration. Guess Cespedes with the Tigers has a similar clause in his contract. Go figure.
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Bobster21
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
676E667779030 wrote: I still wouldn't give him his release from the Pirates. Does this mean he can't play in the KBO or the Pirates won't let him?
I wouldn't release him either. With Kang, we are on the same page Dog. I'm not convinced it's over. we control his rights for 2019 as well.
Don't release him.
I don't understand why the Pirates wouldn't get back the two years he missed? I know he isn't getting paid, but he should be under control until 2021, assuming he will be eligible next year.
I think the contract terms continue, but the org doesn't have to pay it. So the years missed are gone.
There's no reason to release him, to me. He's going to get a visa eventually, maybe after his probationary 2 years is over.
I don't believe that his career is over at 30-31 years old. He was a good fielder, with a rifle arm. That alone is enough reason to hold on and at least try to see how his bat may come back around.
The contract is super team friendly even next season if he's only a good utilityman... let alone if he can actually hit well again.
I agree. Nothing to gain by releasing him. Nothing to lose by holding onto him.
I wouldn't release him either. With Kang, we are on the same page Dog. I'm not convinced it's over. we control his rights for 2019 as well.
Don't release him.
I don't understand why the Pirates wouldn't get back the two years he missed? I know he isn't getting paid, but he should be under control until 2021, assuming he will be eligible next year.
I think the contract terms continue, but the org doesn't have to pay it. So the years missed are gone.
There's no reason to release him, to me. He's going to get a visa eventually, maybe after his probationary 2 years is over.
I don't believe that his career is over at 30-31 years old. He was a good fielder, with a rifle arm. That alone is enough reason to hold on and at least try to see how his bat may come back around.
The contract is super team friendly even next season if he's only a good utilityman... let alone if he can actually hit well again.
I agree. Nothing to gain by releasing him. Nothing to lose by holding onto him.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
66474F664D45220 wrote: I took a couple minutes and Googled and found that Dog is absolutely incorrect in his statement about the length of Kang's contract. No where do I find anything stating that it ends in 2022.
Kang's Contract from BucsDugout.
I find it interesting that after his contract is up after 2019, assuming that the Bucs would have exercised the option for that year, the Bucs would have had to non-tender him. He would not have to go through arbitration. Guess Cespedes with the Tigers has a similar clause in his contract. Go figure.
I saw it on his Baseball Reference page. Says arb years start in 2019 and free agency in 2022.
Kang's Contract from BucsDugout.
I find it interesting that after his contract is up after 2019, assuming that the Bucs would have exercised the option for that year, the Bucs would have had to non-tender him. He would not have to go through arbitration. Guess Cespedes with the Tigers has a similar clause in his contract. Go figure.
I saw it on his Baseball Reference page. Says arb years start in 2019 and free agency in 2022.
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Bobster21
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
3239313D3839226761162F373E3939783539560 wrote: I took a couple minutes and Googled and found that Dog is absolutely incorrect in his statement about the length of Kang's contract. No where do I find anything stating that it ends in 2022.
Kang's Contract from BucsDugout.
I find it interesting that after his contract is up after 2019, assuming that the Bucs would have exercised the option for that year, the Bucs would have had to non-tender him. He would not have to go through arbitration. Guess Cespedes with the Tigers has a similar clause in his contract. Go figure.
I saw it on his Baseball Reference page. Says arb years start in 2019 and free agency in 2022.
Dog, that just means if he's still in MLB the earliest he can be a FA is 2022. He signed a 4-year deal thru 2018 with a team option for 2019. So the Bucs had the option of buying out his first arb year if they wanted to keep him. Baseballereference always lists the first year of arb and FA eligibility for everyone but it doesn't mean they're under contract until then.
Kang's Contract from BucsDugout.
I find it interesting that after his contract is up after 2019, assuming that the Bucs would have exercised the option for that year, the Bucs would have had to non-tender him. He would not have to go through arbitration. Guess Cespedes with the Tigers has a similar clause in his contract. Go figure.
I saw it on his Baseball Reference page. Says arb years start in 2019 and free agency in 2022.
Dog, that just means if he's still in MLB the earliest he can be a FA is 2022. He signed a 4-year deal thru 2018 with a team option for 2019. So the Bucs had the option of buying out his first arb year if they wanted to keep him. Baseballereference always lists the first year of arb and FA eligibility for everyone but it doesn't mean they're under contract until then.
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Bobster21
Jung Ho, we hardly knew you....
I should add that baseball ref is wrong about Kang because he signed as an international free agent and is only under control thru the end of his contract as opposed to domestic players who can be controlled (if the team desires) until the normal FA period. If the Bucs bought out Kang's 2019 season, he would be free to negotiate with anyone else, making him a free agent. There are other sites that show 2019 as his FA year.