1D0A1C2B3D3D315E0 wrote: I would let him get in the starts the rest of this year. If he doesn't show significant progress in those games (maybe this was a rust -
long layoff? - and nerves issue?), then I'd give him the Trevor Williams treatment. Let him learn to be a major leaguer in the bullpen. Ray can work closely with him.
I didn't think sending him down was best for him. It had to restore his confidence given how he dominated at Indy, but I wasn't convinced that he'd not learn a lot since he had been able to dominate on two pitches with so-so control before. He's got to learn to handle ML hitters that won't swing at FB's out of the zone and can foul off (or clobber) ones in the zone.
I too would let him start the rest of the year. What does it really hurt? It's not like these games are important. Either he gets it together, or ...
Glasnow...What to do?
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Glasnow...What to do?
58594253450502360 wrote: I have no idea what to do with Glasnow. He clearly has the stuff to be successful. His AAA track record shows that. I don't recall a pitcher who was just dominant at AAA, but got consistently rocked in MLB. It's the same size plate, same size mound, same strike zone, same ball, still 60' 6". I believe the problem has to be primarily between the ears. Which is why I don't give up on him. Rather than send him to winter ball, I'd send him to a sports psychologist.
The problem is it isn't the same hitters! MLB hitters will lay off, especially if he is extremely wild like his last start. Hitters will just wait on a straight fast ball and crush it.
I disagree, at least to an extent. I just don't think the talent disparity is that drastic between AAA and MLB. It's not like he's been pitching against college kids. AAA baseball is arguably the second best professional league in the world, maybe slightly below the Japanese major leagues. If he was just getting by in AAA, I'd say maybe. But, he's been putting up video game numbers. That should translate.
The problem is it isn't the same hitters! MLB hitters will lay off, especially if he is extremely wild like his last start. Hitters will just wait on a straight fast ball and crush it.
I disagree, at least to an extent. I just don't think the talent disparity is that drastic between AAA and MLB. It's not like he's been pitching against college kids. AAA baseball is arguably the second best professional league in the world, maybe slightly below the Japanese major leagues. If he was just getting by in AAA, I'd say maybe. But, he's been putting up video game numbers. That should translate.
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Bobster21
Glasnow...What to do?
1F17142335103738560 wrote: I have no idea what to do with Glasnow. He clearly has the stuff to be successful. His AAA track record shows that. I don't recall a pitcher who was just dominant at AAA, but got consistently rocked in MLB. It's the same size plate, same size mound, same strike zone, same ball, still 60' 6". I believe the problem has to be primarily between the ears. Which is why I don't give up on him. Rather than send him to winter ball, I'd send him to a sports psychologist.
The problem is it isn't the same hitters! MLB hitters will lay off, especially if he is extremely wild like his last start. Hitters will just wait on a straight fast ball and crush it.
I disagree, at least to an extent. I just don't think the talent disparity is that drastic between AAA and MLB. It's not like he's been pitching against college kids. AAA baseball is arguably the second best professional league in the world, maybe slightly below the Japanese major leagues. If he was just getting by in AAA, I'd say maybe. But, he's been putting up video game numbers. That should translate.
I think on most AAA teams, there's only a few hitters you need to worry about. Some AAA hitters are recently promoted from AA and not really even at the AAA level yet. Others will top out at AAA and never see the majors. Some of the starters will only make it as weak hitting MLB reserves. Some are Phil Gosselin type MLB washouts. The best hitters at Indy this year were Bostick, Terdoslavich and Ortiz other than brief stints by Luplow and Moroff.
The problem is it isn't the same hitters! MLB hitters will lay off, especially if he is extremely wild like his last start. Hitters will just wait on a straight fast ball and crush it.
I disagree, at least to an extent. I just don't think the talent disparity is that drastic between AAA and MLB. It's not like he's been pitching against college kids. AAA baseball is arguably the second best professional league in the world, maybe slightly below the Japanese major leagues. If he was just getting by in AAA, I'd say maybe. But, he's been putting up video game numbers. That should translate.
I think on most AAA teams, there's only a few hitters you need to worry about. Some AAA hitters are recently promoted from AA and not really even at the AAA level yet. Others will top out at AAA and never see the majors. Some of the starters will only make it as weak hitting MLB reserves. Some are Phil Gosselin type MLB washouts. The best hitters at Indy this year were Bostick, Terdoslavich and Ortiz other than brief stints by Luplow and Moroff.
Glasnow...What to do?
It's possible that just the type of pitcher he is explains why he can't make the jump.
Normal pitchers with his numbers in AAA may not get decked the way he does in MLB because normal pitchers have some semblence of fastball command.
They're pitchers. They can say "I'm throwing this fastball outside" and at least get it on that side of the plate.
Glasnows pitches look like a shotgun target at a turkey shoot. He's missing his catcher by a foot + alot of the time. Every catcher in that situation is going to have a busy glove, which only increases the chances the ML ump tightens his zone. Framing? Forget about it. Ball is going everywhere and at 95+, makes it even harder to frame. Evidence? All 3 catchers have caught him with the same results.
It's also possible AAA umps call a more forgiving zone, so his shotgun patterns force AAA hitters to swing while ML hitters just take and take
Normal pitchers with his numbers in AAA may not get decked the way he does in MLB because normal pitchers have some semblence of fastball command.
They're pitchers. They can say "I'm throwing this fastball outside" and at least get it on that side of the plate.
Glasnows pitches look like a shotgun target at a turkey shoot. He's missing his catcher by a foot + alot of the time. Every catcher in that situation is going to have a busy glove, which only increases the chances the ML ump tightens his zone. Framing? Forget about it. Ball is going everywhere and at 95+, makes it even harder to frame. Evidence? All 3 catchers have caught him with the same results.
It's also possible AAA umps call a more forgiving zone, so his shotgun patterns force AAA hitters to swing while ML hitters just take and take
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DemDog
Glasnow...What to do?
TBMTIMLB surely can figure out that the best thing to do with Glasnow is to put him on non-revocable waivers and lose him for nothing saying that they want to give him a chance to pitch for a team with a chance to make the playoffs before he retires! Oh and but doing that TBMTIMLB realizes that they will not be burdened by high salaries in his arbitration years. Gotta keep that payroll down.