MLB Needs Fixed

fjk090852-7 · Post by **fjk090852-7** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:02 pm

Many of us Pirates fans get upset, and frustrated when we see the team trade players such as Josh Bell, or Andrew McCutchen. The Pirates have had only 4 winning seasons in over 25 years of baseball. Today the Tampa Rays have traded Blake Snell their #1 starting pitcher, and they could be listening to trade proposals for centerfielder Kevin Kiermaier. Trading their star pitcher, and allowing Charlie Morton to sign with the Braves is so disappointing.

The Rays were the American League representative in this year’s World Series. Yes it was a shortened season, but they were AL Champions. The loss of these players will hinder any chances of a repeat in 2021.

After the 2021 season the agreement with the Players Association expires, and it is time that the small market teams band together to hammer out an agreement which permits all the teams to compete each year, and retain their star players in order to remain a competitive organization.

2drfischer@gmail.c · Post by **2drfischer@gmail.c** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:43 pm

747879222B222A27203F25120 wrote: Many of us Pirates fans get upset, and frustrated when we see the team trade players such as Josh Bell, or Andrew McCutchen. The Pirates have had only 4 winning seasons in over 25 years of baseball. Today the Tampa Rays have traded Blake Snell their #1 starting pitcher, and they could be listening to trade proposals for centerfielder Kevin Kiermaier. Trading their star pitcher, and allowing Charlie Morton to sign with the Braves is so disappointing.

The Rays were the American League representative in this year’s World Series. Yes it was a shortened season, but they were AL Champions. The loss of these players will hinder any chances of a repeat in 2021.

After the 2021 season the agreement with the Players Association expires, and it is time that the small market teams band together to hammer out an agreement which permits all the teams to compete each year, and retain their star players in order to remain a competitive organization.

I'm with you that MLB needs to create a system of equity regarding payroll among the franchises, but I'm a fan. No way does Bob Nutting agree with us. He's perfectly content to keep the status quo. He takes very little, to no, risk and receives lots of money from MLB just by fielding a ball team that allows other teams to play. He's got the best gig going just about anywhere in the free world. He's not messing that up.

Bobster21 · Post by **Bobster21** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:30 pm

I don't hear any of the small market owners clamoring for change. I think they fear that a salary cap would also bring about a mandatory minimum. All but Nutting attempt to compete despite their self imposed financial constraints. Nutting doesn't try but all of them seem content with the MLB system.

NewMexicoLobo · Post by **NewMexicoLobo** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:46 pm

547974656273642427160 wrote: I don't hear any of the small market owners clamoring for change. I think they fear that a salary cap would also bring about a mandatory minimum. All but Nutting attempt to compete despite their self imposed financial constraints. Nutting doesn't try but all of them seem content with the MLB system.

Couldn't disagree more. They would welcome a cap -- especially after the financial debacle of a season they just had.

Geez.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:53 pm

All opinions, of course:

There is nothing wrong with MLB. It's perfectly fine.

There is something wrong with very few teams, and reasons for it that have zero to do with money.

Pirates? Owner. Managerial incompetence.

Orioles? Owner. Managerial incompetence.

Tigers? Managerial incompetence. Probably a temporary situation. I dnk.

Marlins? Owner. maybe past owners. Incompetence. Probably shouldn't even have a team in the market.

Tampa? A lot of good things going for it, but let's face it- probably shouldn't have a team in the market.

The past two or more CBAs were ratified unanimously.

Regardless of any disagreement, the NFL, NBA, and NHL have salary caps and floors. Yet, teams like the Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, and- get this- the New York (that's New York) Knicks have been under-achievers. They all have one thing in common, even though they have caps and floors: Incompetence.

Franchises like the LA Lakers, up until now, the New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers, Golden State Warriors, etc. have done fairly well over time. So has the large market OKC Thunder, who have had to get rid of talent.

Money does not buy brains.

No one wants to admit it, but the Pirates have the Double Whammy of Cheapness and Incompetence.

It's up to the Pirates and these other teams to do what it takes with the money they're given. BOB hired the hockey guy to increase revenues.

They could axe four teams and very few people outside those immediate areas would even notice. The quality of play would improve. Guys like Polanco wouldn't be playing in the major leagues.

2drfischer@gmail.c · Post by **2drfischer@gmail.c** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:56 pm

1B302218302D3C363A193A373A550 wrote: I don't hear any of the small market owners clamoring for change. I think they fear that a salary cap would also bring about a mandatory minimum. All but Nutting attempt to compete despite their self imposed financial constraints. Nutting doesn't try but all of them seem content with the MLB system.

Couldn't disagree more. They would welcome a cap -- especially after the financial debacle of a season they just had.

Geez.

Nutting wouldn't care one bit if there was a salary cap. He'd never spend up to it. There needs to be a floor instituted to force him to spend an acceptable minimum. That would scare the Bejesus out of him and he'd have a For Sale sign on the franchise before sunrise the next day.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:07 am

I would think that he'd explore his alternatives and choose the one that he found most appealing to him. That could be it, but who knows?

fjk090852-7 · Post by **fjk090852-7** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:14 am

1244524649534348455260474D41494C0E43200 wrote: I don't hear any of the small market owners clamoring for change. I think they fear that a salary cap would also bring about a mandatory minimum. All but Nutting attempt to compete despite their self imposed financial constraints. Nutting doesn't try but all of them seem content with the MLB system.

Couldn't disagree more. They would welcome a cap -- especially after the financial debacle of a season they just had.

Geez.

Nutting wouldn't care one bit if there was a salary cap. He'd never spend up to it. There needs to be a floor instituted to force him to spend an acceptable minimum. That would scare the Bejesus out of him and he'd have a For Sale sign on the franchise before sunrise the next day.

I totally agree they need a floor. I do think the players are going to pursue it because teams are not spending like they did a few years ago. Even this offseason the free agent signing of players is moving at a turtle pace. If there is a floor teams will be forced to spend up to that amount, and not like the Bucs who will probably have a 50 million dollar payroll in 2021.

GreenWeenie · Post by **GreenWeenie** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:42 am

All they need to do is force teams to use the handouts they already receive from that internet deal and from their higher-spending competitors on the 25-man roster and not hiding it on stuff we can't find out about.

fjk090852-7 · Post by **fjk090852-7** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:41 am

457067676C5567676C6B67020 wrote: All they need to do is force teams to use the handouts they already receive from that internet deal and from their higher-spending competitors on the 25-man roster and not hiding it on stuff we can't find out about.
The way to force teams to spend the internet funds etc is to add it as a stipulation to the Labor Agreement. Whatever you want to call it, it is a floor or required payroll spending. Works for me!