Did anyone see the Alabama Softball Homerun yesterday?
The girl missed home plate as her team was there gathering around waiting for her. She literally jumped over the plate.
The umpire watched the whole thing, tossed the catcher a new ball. After the celebration, the girl went back to home plate and the catcher tagged her with the ball. The umpire called her out.
It wasn't an appeal. Like the catcher didn't step on home plate. She was literally tagged and the umpire called her out.
This can't be right. It wasn't even the same ball. Shouldn't the girl either been allowed to go back before the appeal or an appeal was made and stepped on home plate (assuming runner is out of the baseline)?
I have never seen this before.
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Bobster21
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353E363A3F3E256066112830393E3E7F323E510 wrote: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/watch ... hing-plate
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/5/2 ... -run-video
Ole Miss, realizing what happened — appealed to the umpire.
Section 7.1.2 of the NCAA softball rule book deals with dead-ball appeals. Essentially the game ball that was hit over the fence needed to be replaced by the umpire, at which time Ole Miss were allowed to appeal to the umpire and tell him they wanted to get the runner out. This is why Ole Miss were able to get the out, even though the ball was over the fence.
This is clinched in section 12.9.1.
The runner is out after a proper appeal:
12.9.1 When she fails to touch each base (including home plate) in order when advancing or returning to a base. Either the runner or the missed base may be tagged.
In concert these two rules resulted in Hemphill hitting the ball out of the park, jumping over home plate while celebrating — then Ole Miss appealing the umpire who agreed Hemphill missed home, and allowing them to get her out.
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/5/2 ... -run-video
Ole Miss, realizing what happened — appealed to the umpire.
Section 7.1.2 of the NCAA softball rule book deals with dead-ball appeals. Essentially the game ball that was hit over the fence needed to be replaced by the umpire, at which time Ole Miss were allowed to appeal to the umpire and tell him they wanted to get the runner out. This is why Ole Miss were able to get the out, even though the ball was over the fence.
This is clinched in section 12.9.1.
The runner is out after a proper appeal:
12.9.1 When she fails to touch each base (including home plate) in order when advancing or returning to a base. Either the runner or the missed base may be tagged.
In concert these two rules resulted in Hemphill hitting the ball out of the park, jumping over home plate while celebrating — then Ole Miss appealing the umpire who agreed Hemphill missed home, and allowing them to get her out.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
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But they had to tag her? Why wouldn't they just appeal the base (plate)? If the girl made it back to home plate before she was tagged, would she have been safe?
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Bobster21
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242F272B2E2F347177003921282F2F6E232F400 wrote: But they had to tag her? Why wouldn't they just appeal the base (plate)? If the girl made it back to home plate before she was tagged, would she have been safe?
12.9.1 When she fails to touch each base (including home plate) in order when advancing or returning to a base. Either the runner or the missed base may be tagged.
12.9.1 When she fails to touch each base (including home plate) in order when advancing or returning to a base. Either the runner or the missed base may be tagged.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
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Sorry, more questions:
This was a HR and a different ball. What if the umpire didn't give the ball to the catcher yet? What if the new ball was put back in play during the homerun trot and the girl missed third base, went back to touch the bag, but was tagged with the new ball? Is she out?
The girl was called out on the tag, not for running out of the baseline, right? The appeal is before the next batter. This girl got tagged out on a home run with a different ball. The play was not over yet.
Is this just a softball rule? It is just so weird.
This was a HR and a different ball. What if the umpire didn't give the ball to the catcher yet? What if the new ball was put back in play during the homerun trot and the girl missed third base, went back to touch the bag, but was tagged with the new ball? Is she out?
The girl was called out on the tag, not for running out of the baseline, right? The appeal is before the next batter. This girl got tagged out on a home run with a different ball. The play was not over yet.
Is this just a softball rule? It is just so weird.
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Bobster21
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Section 7.1.2 of the NCAA softball rule book deals with dead-ball appeals. Essentially the game ball that was hit over the fence needed to be replaced by the umpire, at which time Ole Miss were allowed to appeal to the umpire and tell him they wanted to get the runner out. This is why Ole Miss were able to get the out, even though the ball was over the fence.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
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486568797E6F78383B0A0 wrote: Section 7.1.2 of the NCAA softball rule book deals with dead-ball appeals. Essentially the game ball that was hit over the fence needed to be replaced by the umpire, at which time Ole Miss were allowed to appeal to the umpire and tell him they wanted to get the runner out. This is why Ole Miss were able to get the out, even though the ball was over the fence.
This makes sense to you?
Do my questions make sense?
What if the catcher didn't have the new ball yet? Or while she was getting the new ball, the girl ran up and touch home plate? This new ball seems active and not dead.
In baseball, the appeal happens before the next pitch. It would be a new ball and a dead ball.
This makes sense to you?
Do my questions make sense?
What if the catcher didn't have the new ball yet? Or while she was getting the new ball, the girl ran up and touch home plate? This new ball seems active and not dead.
In baseball, the appeal happens before the next pitch. It would be a new ball and a dead ball.
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Bobster21
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Essentially the game ball that was hit over the fence needed to be replaced by the umpire, at which time Ole Miss were allowed to appeal to the umpire and tell him they wanted to get the runner out.
Sounds like the runner could have gone back immediately and touched the plate but waited too long.
Sounds like the runner could have gone back immediately and touched the plate but waited too long.
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dogknot17@yahoo.co
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That's another question. How much time do they have to touch home plate?
Maybe girls shouldn't go to home plate and wait in the dugout? How is that not showing up the pitcher? It was the third inning.
Maybe girls shouldn't go to home plate and wait in the dugout? How is that not showing up the pitcher? It was the third inning.