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6265737B7562252950777D71797C3E737F7D100 wrote: Walker was gone with or without Josh. That was plain, there was no intention to resign Walker. So Harrison did not push Neil out, had nothing to do with the decision to move him. Harrison was simply the guy that was going to replace Walker.
Harrison was the guy who was going to replace Walker, but didn't push him out? I am not following.
This is how it usually works. A younger player comes up with skills and can handle the position just as good or better than the aging veteran. You have seen this over and over throughout sports in general. Almost every starter on the Pirates was the younger player ready to take over. Harrison was no different. Harrison earned his chance. I prefer walker over Harrison, but I saw the writing on the wall.
Harrison was the guy who was going to replace Walker, but didn't push him out? I am not following.
This is how it usually works. A younger player comes up with skills and can handle the position just as good or better than the aging veteran. You have seen this over and over throughout sports in general. Almost every starter on the Pirates was the younger player ready to take over. Harrison was no different. Harrison earned his chance. I prefer walker over Harrison, but I saw the writing on the wall.
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060D05090C0D165355221B030A0D0D4C010D620 wrote: Walker was gone with or without Josh. That was plain, there was no intention to resign Walker. So Harrison did not push Neil out, had nothing to do with the decision to move him. Harrison was simply the guy that was going to replace Walker.
Harrison was the guy who was going to replace Walker, but didn't push him out? I am not following.
This is how it usually works. A younger player comes up with skills and can handle the position just as good or better than the aging veteran. You have seen this over and over throughout sports in general. Almost every starter on the Pirates was the younger player ready to take over. Harrison was no different. Harrison earned his chance. I prefer walker over Harrison, but I saw the writing on the wall.
Harrison is only 2 years younger than Walker and the team was stronger with both on the roster. The Pirates value that super utility role and had to find a replacement in that role for Harrison. They gave that job to S-Rod in 2016. Harrison had over 400 ABs in 2015 so it's not as if they had to move Walker to find ABs for Harrison.
Harrison's contract is back loaded and the 5.25 mil "starter money" he got in 2016 when Walker was moved is less than what they are paying Hudson this year. Walker was moved in 2016 to save money even though the payroll was already one of MLB's lowest. That was the reason. Harrison (whether 2B or super UT) was playing either way.
Harrison was the guy who was going to replace Walker, but didn't push him out? I am not following.
This is how it usually works. A younger player comes up with skills and can handle the position just as good or better than the aging veteran. You have seen this over and over throughout sports in general. Almost every starter on the Pirates was the younger player ready to take over. Harrison was no different. Harrison earned his chance. I prefer walker over Harrison, but I saw the writing on the wall.
Harrison is only 2 years younger than Walker and the team was stronger with both on the roster. The Pirates value that super utility role and had to find a replacement in that role for Harrison. They gave that job to S-Rod in 2016. Harrison had over 400 ABs in 2015 so it's not as if they had to move Walker to find ABs for Harrison.
Harrison's contract is back loaded and the 5.25 mil "starter money" he got in 2016 when Walker was moved is less than what they are paying Hudson this year. Walker was moved in 2016 to save money even though the payroll was already one of MLB's lowest. That was the reason. Harrison (whether 2B or super UT) was playing either way.
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And, yes, I know they took on salary with Niese. They needed a pitcher and didn't want to expand their low payroll. So trading Walker enabled them to add a pitcher while keeping the payroll about the same. That's a huge problem with this team. Despite "we'll spend when the time is right," they don't want to improve the team if it requires more spending. So to add a player, they need to subtract one.
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0A272A3B3C2D3A7A79480 wrote: And, yes, I know they took on salary with Niese. They needed a pitcher and didn't want to expand their low payroll. So trading Walker enabled them to add a pitcher while keeping the payroll about the same. That's a huge problem with this team. Despite "we'll spend when the time is right," they don't want to improve the team if it requires more spending. So to add a player, they need to subtract one.
I actually thought it was a fine "baseball trade" in principle, but the specifics didn't exactly work out. If Niese weren't so terrible and was still a reasonable starter, that's a good move money or not. There weren't a lot of those guys on the market that year.
I actually thought it was a fine "baseball trade" in principle, but the specifics didn't exactly work out. If Niese weren't so terrible and was still a reasonable starter, that's a good move money or not. There weren't a lot of those guys on the market that year.
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6C5E52524674575E5356595E3F0 wrote: And, yes, I know they took on salary with Niese. They needed a pitcher and didn't want to expand their low payroll. So trading Walker enabled them to add a pitcher while keeping the payroll about the same. That's a huge problem with this team. Despite "we'll spend when the time is right," they don't want to improve the team if it requires more spending. So to add a player, they need to subtract one.
I actually thought it was a fine "baseball trade" in principle, but the specifics didn't exactly work out. If Niese weren't so terrible and was still a reasonable starter, that's a good move money or not. There weren't a lot of those guys on the market that year.
I have no problem with idea of the trade either but Niese was certainly not the right guy. Because the Pirates have had success with some pitchers it seems like they look for pitchers that they can fix (because you can get them at a bargain price). That is risky and most likely a failing strategy over the long term.
I actually thought it was a fine "baseball trade" in principle, but the specifics didn't exactly work out. If Niese weren't so terrible and was still a reasonable starter, that's a good move money or not. There weren't a lot of those guys on the market that year.
I have no problem with idea of the trade either but Niese was certainly not the right guy. Because the Pirates have had success with some pitchers it seems like they look for pitchers that they can fix (because you can get them at a bargain price). That is risky and most likely a failing strategy over the long term.
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Just saw a note that the Marlins outfielders Stanton, Osuna and Yelich believe this weekend will be the last that the 3 will play together due to the team sale. If I were the Bucs I would begin trade discussions for Yelich. If Polanco or Marte were not part of the deal, then once I had Yelich I would begin discussions to trade either one of them. Yelich's left handed bat would play well at PNC Park.
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2E2223787178707D7A657F480 wrote: Just saw a note that the Marlins outfielders Stanton, Osuna and Yelich believe this weekend will be the last that the 3 will play together due to the team sale. If I were the Bucs I would begin trade discussions for Yelich. If Polanco or Marte were not part of the deal, then once I had Yelich I would begin discussions to trade either one of them. Yelich's left handed bat would play well at PNC Park.
That is a nice core of outfielders to build around. I wouldn't mind any of them.
That is a nice core of outfielders to build around. I wouldn't mind any of them.
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323E3F646D646C61667963540 wrote: Just saw a note that the Marlins outfielders Stanton, Osuna and Yelich believe this weekend will be the last that the 3 will play together due to the team sale. If I were the Bucs I would begin trade discussions for Yelich. If Polanco or Marte were not part of the deal, then once I had Yelich I would begin discussions to trade either one of them. Yelich's left handed bat would play well at PNC Park.
If I were buying a team, I think I'd want to do a long internal evaluation before I started moving pieces.
If I were buying a team, I think I'd want to do a long internal evaluation before I started moving pieces.
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They have a good line up, they just need pitching. I am pretty sure they had Volquez, Locke and Worley in their rotation together this year.
Maybe they want some more Pirates pitching? The Pirates do have some unproven depth.
Maybe they want some more Pirates pitching? The Pirates do have some unproven depth.
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6F646C6065647F3A3C4B726A6364642568640B0 wrote: They have a good line up, they just need pitching. I am pretty sure they had Volquez, Locke and Worley in their rotation together this year.
Maybe they want some more Pirates pitching? The Pirates do have some unproven depth.
I actually agree with this. I don't think it's far fetched to think that if the Marlins still had Fernandez, they would have competitive for the WC. If I was a new owner, I wouldn't want to break up that outfield just yet.
Maybe they want some more Pirates pitching? The Pirates do have some unproven depth.
I actually agree with this. I don't think it's far fetched to think that if the Marlins still had Fernandez, they would have competitive for the WC. If I was a new owner, I wouldn't want to break up that outfield just yet.