I'm sick of Ownership and Management of this team

[steve 49]

We have a potential dominant starting 5 pitching staff if Jones comes back healthy. By year's end it very well could be Skenes , Jones , Chandler , Keller and the guy I've been touting for a year now... Barco. I can't imagine why he has not been a highly touted prospect until maybe a week or two ago. He has really nasty stuff. Problem with the team will still be a crap BP and a zero investment in hitting. So , that said , I too and "sick of ownership."

Speaking of Pirate pitchers , nobody in baseball seems to mention that Skenes' stuff is no doubt "down" fro last year. I wonder if some of this might be due to him adding 2 pitches to his arsenal. His change and splinter are not like last year and his velocity is down a tick or two. Way less swing and miss this year. Still no doubt an exceptional pitcher....

[steve 49]

Skenes pitches all played better vs LA.

Looks like 50 pitches is all they want Barco throwing . ERA remains at zero as he gave up 1 hit and struck up 8 in 3 innings.

[fjk090852-7]

Do something on Monday to shake up this team. Fire someone, dfa a couple players, but do something.

[fjk090852-7]

The MLB Power Rankings were updated today and the Pirates are 28th out of 30th. How embarrassing for the team, the fans as well as players.

[Doc]

The MLB Power Rankings were updated today and the Pirates are 28th out of 30th. How embarrassing for the team, the fans as well as players.

I don't want to seek a silver lining because the Pirates are really bad, and it's easy to see why. But the Rockies may be working on the all time worst record in MLB history. The 1899 Cleveland Spiders ended their season at 20-134 (.130) while, in the modern era, the 1916 Athletics finished at 36-117 (.235). Colorado is currently at 4-24 (.143), which calculates to a 23-139 final record. But they could end up worse as the season drags on, with players losing interest and trades of their best players likely happening.

The Pirates are, as you say, an embarrassment. But I can't imagine how bad it is in Denver right now.

[fjk090852-7]

May 1st and the Pirates have 20 losses. Could they lose 100 games this year? I enjoy the Pirates especially reading about them, but lately I have not watched them on TV. I check my I pad for updates. This season has become very disheartening for this life long fan.

[PooperScooper !]

The big move by BC was Horwitz, that will save the season. With the Pham, Frazier and Cutch salaries and just adding a few more dollars could of got someone. Cutch has started off decent but he isn't the future.

[mouse]

One of the big concerns I have about management (Shelton but likely from higher up as well) is the disregard for consistency. I've always assumed baseball is a game of rhythm. Players get a spot, get into a flow, and can focus on the situation. The constant changing of the lineup and the batting order and even the fielding position of players has to have a negative impact. Pitchers (I'm convinced) work best with a set rotation schedule and a set number of days; relief pitchers knowing when they are likely to appear. No idea if this makes sense. Just a feeling.

[Ecbucs]

One of the big concerns I have about management (Shelton but likely from higher up as well) is the disregard for consistency. I've always assumed baseball is a game of rhythm. Players get a spot, get into a flow, and can focus on the situation. The constant changing of the lineup and the batting order and even the fielding position of players has to have a negative impact. Pitchers (I'm convinced) work best with a set rotation schedule and a set number of days; relief pitchers knowing when they are likely to appear. No idea if this makes sense. Just a feeling.

I think this is true for many players. For some it may not make a difference.

IMO, Shelton probably has limited ability as to how to make out the line up. Maybe the front office only gives him recommendations but I'm sure it is clear to Shelton that if he doesn't follow recommendations most of the time he is in trouble. Still, the biggest problem with the Bucs is lack of talent compared to other teams.

We don't have a superstar position player, really not even a star player. Reynolds, Cruz (and maybe Bart) have good bats. But to win without a very good bat and a great bat almost everyone else has to be at Reynolds and Cruz levels. The Bucs can't win with bats like Hayes, Pham, IFK, Frazier in the lineup everyday.

[Bobster]

One of the big concerns I have about management (Shelton but likely from higher up as well) is the disregard for consistency. I've always assumed baseball is a game of rhythm. Players get a spot, get into a flow, and can focus on the situation. The constant changing of the lineup and the batting order and even the fielding position of players has to have a negative impact. Pitchers (I'm convinced) work best with a set rotation schedule and a set number of days; relief pitchers knowing when they are likely to appear. No idea if this makes sense. Just a feeling.

I think this is true for many players. For some it may not make a difference.

IMO, Shelton probably has limited ability as to how to make out the line up. Maybe the front office only gives him recommendations but I'm sure it is clear to Shelton that if he doesn't follow recommendations most of the time he is in trouble. Still, the biggest problem with the Bucs is lack of talent compared to other teams.

We don't have a superstar position player, really not even a star player. Reynolds, Cruz (and maybe Bart) have good bats. But to win without a very good bat and a great bat almost everyone else has to be at Reynolds and Cruz levels. The Bucs can't win with bats like Hayes, Pham, IFK, Frazier in the lineup everyday.

I agree with both above points. Players generally agree that the more reps they get batting and fielding, the better they get. Consistency helps, inconsistency hurts. But the talent level on the roster is so poor that there's only so much improvement to be had via consistent playing. At any rate, I think Cherington pulls Shelton's strings and together they fail to get the most they can get out of what they have, limited as that may be.