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Bobster wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:53 pm
Doc wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:09 pm The Yankees are looking at trading for Nolan Arenado and signing Paul Goldschmidt. Goldschmidt isn't the player he used to be but he could be valuable as a platoon and bench player. Imagine, Paul Goldschmidt coming off the Yankees bench in a key, late-inning situation. The Pirates? Can you say Alika Williams?
Goldschmidt is 37. In 3 more years I expect the Pirates to sign him. :D
That sounds about right.
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Doc wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:43 pm It looks like 1Bman Christian Walker is going to sign with the Astros.
He was one of the guys I said the Pirates should have gone after. Dodgers signed another guy I felt was in the Pirates range, Blake Treinen. That's 31 million a year for those two. I would have been fine with an open audition for corner outfield had they got those two.
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Surgnbuck wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:39 pm
Doc wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:43 pm It looks like 1Bman Christian Walker is going to sign with the Astros.
He was one of the guys I said the Pirates should have gone after. Dodgers signed another guy I felt was in the Pirates range, Blake Treinen. That's 31 million a year for those two. I would have been fine with an open audition for corner outfield had they got those two.
Once again, the Pirates employed their successful, well-worn strategy of patiently watching the good players being signed.
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Doc wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:52 pm
Surgnbuck wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:39 pm
Doc wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:43 pm It looks like 1Bman Christian Walker is going to sign with the Astros.
He was one of the guys I said the Pirates should have gone after. Dodgers signed another guy I felt was in the Pirates range, Blake Treinen. That's 31 million a year for those two. I would have been fine with an open audition for corner outfield had they got those two.
Once again, the Pirates employed their successful, well-worn strategy of patiently watching the good players being signed.
Walker will be 34 next season and signed for 3 years, $60 million. Treinen is 36 and signed for 2 years, $22 million. As usual, the good free agents chose good teams. No one with better options wants to tie themselves to a perennial bottom feeder. The Pirates will sign (A) someone trying to make it back from injuries), (2) an aging player whose skills have faded and sees the Pirates as an opportunity to get more playing time than anywhere else and/or (III) a marginal player looking for a team to give him chance to establish himself.
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Good move by the Yankees. If it doesn't work out, they can swing a deal at the deadline. It's obvious that by not going after Alonso, they're gearing up for Vlad Jr. next year.
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Alonso may want to start being concerned. His options for a big payday are starting to dry up.
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Bobster wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:19 pm
Doc wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:52 pm
Surgnbuck wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:39 pm
He was one of the guys I said the Pirates should have gone after. Dodgers signed another guy I felt was in the Pirates range, Blake Treinen. That's 31 million a year for those two. I would have been fine with an open audition for corner outfield had they got those two.
Once again, the Pirates employed their successful, well-worn strategy of patiently watching the good players being signed.
Walker will be 34 next season and signed for 3 years, $60 million. Treinen is 36 and signed for 2 years, $22 million. As usual, the good free agents chose good teams. No one with better options wants to tie themselves to a perennial bottom feeder. The Pirates will sign (A) someone trying to make it back from injuries), (2) an aging player whose skills have faded and sees the Pirates as an opportunity to get more playing time than anywhere else and/or (III) a marginal player looking for a team to give him chance to establish himself.
(A), (2), and (III)? My eyeballs are spinning.

In other words, the type of player you described who the Pirates typically sign is not someone who can help the team win. So it’s basically a charade when the team does sign someone. Aren’t we lucky to have the Pirates as our hometown team.
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The Bucs missed on Paul Goldschmidt.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/ ... hmidt.html
Let's Go Bucs
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Possum wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:56 pm The Bucs missed on Paul Goldschmidt.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/ ... hmidt.html
The fact in the article that floored me was that the Yankees’ first basemen in 2024 were last in MLB in OPS. Those guys were worse than Tellez and Joe?

If Goldschmidt signed for $12.5 million with the Yankees, I wonder what the Pirates would have had to offer to get him here? That’s a serious issue the organization has to overcome.
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