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There is a report that the Players Association is questioning the use of the Bucs revenue money. That is great I hope they find out that Nutting has taken some of the money for his ski resorts. I am tired to see teams like the Brerwers with the lowest rank in TV Market sign free agents, and acquire star players from other organizations. This team needs a new owner who cares more about winning than the bottom line.

And then what?



Are there stipulations on how they spend that money? I'm not sure it would be hard for the Pirates, if compelled, to provide an accounting of money spent on baseball operations. Such as operating their facility in the Dominican and building out their analytics office.



If the players association would show any capability of assessing a situation with multiple variables, they would understand that 4/30 teams spending double the median and over a third of the league spending 100M and less on payroll is bad for free agents.



Do a 180M cap with a 120M floor. Complaining about the teams that are rebuilding is farcical, because out the other side of their mouths their probably praising teams like the Astros, Cubs and Nationals that when rebuilding, were underspending their market by over $100M per year.

When is the rally at PNC Park to get Bob Nutting to sell? Is anyone going? Is Thomas Tull going? That actually would be funny to see Mr. Tull there with a sign.

Mr Tull has been quoted as to owning a baseball team in the future. Since he has now purchased a property in the Pittsburgh area,I would hope that Nutting would throw in the towel and decide to sell. How about the politicians getting in the act due to the public funded stadium?

I would imagine that politicians actively advocating the owner to take specific actions would be some sort of breach of the funding agreement, or the lease the teams has.

4945441F161F171A1D02182F0 wrote: There is a report that the Players Association  is questioning the use of the Bucs revenue money. That is great I hope they find out that Nutting has taken some of the money for his ski resorts. I am tired to see teams like the Brerwers with the lowest rank in TV Market sign free agents, and acquire star players from other organizations. This team needs a new owner who cares more about winning than the bottom line.


The Pirates should be investigated. Again, $50 million check from the Disney thing and an additional 20-40 million in revenue sharing, but yet, they dumped Cutch and Cole for virtually no salary. They haven't signed a free agent or done anything good. Their entire payroll will be below that 50 million plus revenue sharing check, thus Nutting pockets money without putting any of that money into his team. He shouldn't be crying poor under these circumstances.

6373724553535F300 wrote: There is a report that the Players Association  is questioning the use of the Bucs revenue money. That is great I hope they find out that Nutting has taken some of the money for his ski resorts. I am tired to see teams like the Brerwers with the lowest rank in TV Market sign free agents, and acquire star players from other organizations. This team needs a new owner who cares more about winning than the bottom line.


The Pirates should be investigated.  Again, $50 million check from the Disney thing and an additional 20-40 million in revenue sharing, but yet, they dumped Cutch and Cole for virtually no salary.  They haven't signed a free agent or done anything good.  Their entire payroll will be below that 50 million plus revenue sharing check, thus Nutting pockets money without putting any of that money into his team.  He shouldn't be crying poor under these circumstances.
Who knows. First the fans start the petition, then there is talk of a boycott at opening day, Boras raises questions about them saying they are poor, and now the Players Association raises questions about they use of the revenue money they receive. Maybe the heat is getting turned up on the Front Office.

What is the Opening Day boycott? That game sold out in five minutes. They got their money.



If one can prove that he is using Pirates money to invest into his Ski Resorts, the minority owners could do something legally. I am not sure how that works or ever hear the other owners speak.

Opening Day is not sold out yet. There was talk about picketing around the Park on Opening Day. Fans are upset for the most recent trades, and lack of spending.

4479676A656F64466E79686E6F0B0 wrote: And then what?



Are there stipulations on how they spend that money? I'm not sure it would be hard for the Pirates, if compelled, to provide an accounting of money spent on baseball operations. Such as operating their facility in the Dominican and building out their analytics office.



If the players association would show any capability of assessing a situation with multiple variables, they would understand that 4/30 teams spending double the median and over a third of the league spending 100M and less on payroll is bad for free agents.



Do a 180M cap with a 120M floor. Complaining about the teams that are rebuilding is farcical, because out the other side of their mouths their probably praising teams like the Astros, Cubs and Nationals that when rebuilding, were underspending their market by over $100M per year.


Fair enough, but the Pirates are not rebuilding. So neal has already blown a hole in your argument. Pirates are in it to compete this year. Maybe other than the Rays, competing teams don't have payroll under $100M.



Can't have it both ways (claim you're competing to quiet the fans; claim you're rebuilding to justify pocketing millions and millions and million of dollars).



In this case, the Pirates are on record to be competing. They just passed on a tremendous opportunity to say something of real significance to the fans. They could have broken the back of all the critics; they could have put a stop to the deteriorating relationship between this franchise and the fans (which is ultimately going to hurt the fans); they could have made the team legitimately better on paper and still had plently of money left over. They choose, once again, to do nothing.



Actually, they did just say something to us: it starts by raising either hand and delivering a certain salute....