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Great Memories

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:45 pm
by INbuc
Despite being a Pirate fan my whole life, the only game I have ever seen in Pittsburgh was five years ago today.  It was one of the most memorable games of the season.  The game went into the 10th, when the Cardinals quickly scored twice to go up 5-3.  The Bucs battled back and won on a two-run hit from Cervelli.   The stadium went wild in the last game heading into the allstar break.



The day before, we arrived late in the afternoon, had dinner, rode the incline, and did some sightseeing.  We got back to the room late, but the game was still going.  In the 14th, the Cards scored to go up 5-4.  Neil Walker got on base, and McCutchen hit a two-run homer to win it.



Incredibly fun trip.  I truly thought that 2015 team had the most complete 25-man roster in baseball that season.  Arrieta and the one-game wildcard ruined our great opportunity that year.   Nutting stole our opportunity after that.



Nonetheless, great memories of this day five years ago.

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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:07 pm
by 2drfischer@gmail.c
292E021503600 wrote: Despite being a Pirate fan my whole life, the only game I have ever seen in Pittsburgh was five years ago today.  It was one of the most memorable games of the season.  The game went into the 10th, when the Cardinals quickly scored twice to go up 5-3.  The Bucs battled back and won on a two-run hit from Cervelli.   The stadium went wild in the last game heading into the allstar break.



The day before, we arrived late in the afternoon, had dinner, rode the incline, and did some sightseeing.  We got back to the room late, but the game was still going.  In the 14th, the Cards scored to go up 5-4.  Neil Walker got on base, and McCutchen hit a two-run homer to win it.



Incredibly fun trip.  I truly thought that 2015 team had the most complete 25-man roster in baseball that season.  Arrieta and the one-game wildcard ruined our great opportunity that year.   Nutting stole our opportunity after that.



Nonetheless, great memories of this day five years ago.


Great memories of a great weekend. But wow, it seems more like 25 years since that night.

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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:49 pm
by INbuc
Yeah, seems like at least 10 years!



I hold the distinction of being both a Pirate fan and a Kansas City Chiefs fan.   It's bad enough the Bucs are 41 years into their last championship.  The Chiefs were 50 years between titles.  But they latched onto the best player in football when the drafted Mahomes.  As a fan, I feel there is no game the Chiefs can't win.



I noted the Bucs had the best 25 man roster in 2015. That is not what wins championships.  It is having some transcendent talent/s that typically gets you there.



Baseball is different, but let's hope sometime soon, the Pirates find that special talent.  Someone who gives his teammates, fans, and ownership the confidence to go all in for a  title shot.   Of course ownership is the X-factor.

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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:59 pm
by 2drfischer@gmail.c
77705C4B5D3E0 wrote: Yeah, seems like at least 10 years!



I hold the distinction of being both a Pirate fan and a Kansas City Chiefs fan.   It's bad enough the Bucs are 41 years into their last championship.  The Chiefs were 50 years between titles.  But they latched onto the best player in football when the drafted Mahomes.  As a fan, I feel there is no game the Chiefs can't win.



I noted the Bucs had the best 25 man roster in 2015. That is not what wins championships.  It is having some transcendent talent/s that typically gets you there.



Baseball is different, but let's hope sometime soon, the Pirates find that special talent.  Someone who gives his teammates, fans, and ownership the confidence to go all in for a  title shot.   Of course ownership is the X-factor.


Agreed, having a few very talented players is essential to winning. I had no faith that the previous front office group could bring those kinds of players here. I'm going to give Cherington and his people time and support and hope like heck they can do the job. Because, as you alluded, the owner isn't ever going to help.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:02 am
by GreenWeenie
I remember that as a thrilling weekend, but I don't agree with your take on the Pirates roster at all.



Our 2015 team didn't even win its division or a post-season game. There is no way the rosters compared favorably to the teams that went beyond it. No way.



That's not to say it was a bad team. It just didn't stack up. It went as far as it could have gone. Bats were stymied by one dominant pitcher, true. But, the rest of the Cubs team took us to task, too.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:37 pm
by Ecbucs
675245454E7745454E4945200 wrote: I remember that as a thrilling weekend, but I don't agree with your take on the Pirates roster at all.



Our 2015 team didn't even win its division or a post-season game.  There is no way the rosters compared favorably to the teams that went beyond it.  No way.



That's not to say it was a bad team.  It just didn't stack up.  It went as far as it could have gone.  Bats were stymied by one dominant pitcher, true.  But, the rest of the Cubs team took us to task, too.


The Bucs needed Pedro to be as good as Kris Byrant. That would have helped the team a lot.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:54 pm
by ArnoldRothstein
2015 was tremendously stressful.



In the end, it still killz me that the Cards, Pirates, and Cubs went 30-10 against the Mets and Dodgers during the season, but the setup assured one of those latter two would make it to the NLCS. if I was Commissioner for a day, I'd set up a rule that if a wild card had the better season record and won the season series, it would take a division winner's spot in the playoffs.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:34 pm
by Bobster21
52617D7C7F77417C677B6067767A7D130 wrote: 2015 was tremendously stressful.



In the end, it still killz me that the Cards, Pirates, and Cubs went 30-10 against the Mets and Dodgers during the season, but the setup assured one of those latter two would make it to the NLCS.  if I was Commissioner for a day, I'd set up  a rule that if a wild card had the better season record and won the season series, it would take a division winner's spot in the playoffs.
The problem with comparing records of team in different divisions is that they play different schedules.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:58 pm
by ArnoldRothstein
That's why they also have to win the season series.

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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:58 pm
by Bobster21
665549484B437548534F5453424E49270 wrote: That's why they also have to win the season series.
I would hate to win my division while playing a much tougher schedule than a runner up in another division who wound up 1 game better than me and bumped me from the post season because he won the season series.