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Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:39 pm
by DemDog
Cards

1. Dylan Carlson (S) RF

2. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B

3. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B

4. Tyler O'Neill (R) LF

5. Yadier Molina (R) C

6. Harrison Bader (R) CF

7. Paul DeJong (R) SS

8. Tommy Edman (S) 2B

9. Adam Wainwright (R) P



Bucs

1. Hoy Park (L) SS

2. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B

3. Bryan Reynolds (S) CF

4. Colin Moran (L) 1B

5. Rodolfo Castro (S) 2B

6. Gregory Pooplanco aka Automatic Out (L) RF

7. Anthony Alford (R) LF

8. Michael Perez (L) C

9. Wil Crowe (R) P



Shelty does it again.  The "Impossible Big Bopper" in RF.  Heck, I would just as soon see Kai "Mr. Shortpants" Tom out there.  Or you could just start one of the Pirate Pierogies and let him/her man RF for a couple of innings each.  I can see it now, "Jalapeno Hannah" at-bat in the bottom of the ninth smacking a long walk-off HR over the Clemente Wall with her purse.

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:56 pm
by GreenWeenie
I still think that he's told whom to play. Whether he's also told tge batting order and defensive position, who knows? That wouldn't surprise me, either.



I'll give my pass to Shelton for now.

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:17 pm
by Bobster21
BAs for 5-8 tonight:



.203

.201

.171

.163



If that doesn't strike fear into Wainwright, nothing will.

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:28 pm
by Surgnbuck
Let's Go Bucs!!!

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:47 pm
by 2drfischer@gmail.c
There’s no reasonable or acceptable explanation that could be given for Polanco to be on the team, let alone him playing in even a single game. I like Cherington and what he’s done so far but it makes no sense if he’s instructing Shelton to play Polanco or is allowing Shelton to continue placing him in the line-up.

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:57 pm
by MaineBucs
The trade deadline has passed. BC can't really believe that Polanco will suddenly get hot at the plate, or that his shoulder will magically heal and allow him to throw the ball, and thus create potential trade value for him this off-season so the Bucs don't have to pay the $3 million buy-out.



While I like what BC has done, the ongoing fascination with Polanco is perplexing.



Note to BC --- Just because you were able to deal Holmes and Davis for what could be serviceable players at the deadline doesn't mean that you will be able to recreate the same hocus-pocus success with dealing Polanco. Past time to move on.

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:17 pm
by Bobster21
735F57505B7C4B5D4D3E0 wrote: The trade deadline has passed. BC can't really believe that Polanco will suddenly get hot at the plate, or that his shoulder will magically heal and allow him to throw the ball, and thus create potential trade value for him this off-season so the Bucs don't have to pay the $3 million buy-out.



While I like what BC has done, the ongoing fascination with Polanco is perplexing.



Note to BC --- Just because you were able to deal Holmes and Davis for what could be serviceable players at the deadline doesn't mean that you will be able to recreate the same hocus-pocus success with dealing Polanco.   Past time to move on.
No, it can't be that. What could Polanco possibly accomplish in the last 7 weeks of the season that would inspire another team to trade for him so they could pay him 12.5 million next year? Polanco isn't worth any decent prospect and the Pirates would likely have to include a lot of cash to offset that 12.5 million. It would be cheaper to pay the 3 million buyout.



The only reason I can imagine they would continue to play him is for PR purposes as the Pirates are always looking for players in the Dominican Republic. Maybe they are using Polanco to demonstrate how loyal the organization is to such players in order to enhance their chances of signing players.

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:38 pm
by Surgnbuck
527F72636475622221100 wrote: The trade deadline has passed. BC can't really believe that Polanco will suddenly get hot at the plate, or that his shoulder will magically heal and allow him to throw the ball, and thus create potential trade value for him this off-season so the Bucs don't have to pay the $3 million buy-out.



While I like what BC has done, the ongoing fascination with Polanco is perplexing.



Note to BC --- Just because you were able to deal Holmes and Davis for what could be serviceable players at the deadline doesn't mean that you will be able to recreate the same hocus-pocus success with dealing Polanco.   Past time to move on.
No, it can't be that. What could Polanco possibly accomplish in the last 7 weeks of the season that would inspire another team to trade for him so they could pay him 12.5 million next year? Polanco isn't worth any decent prospect and the Pirates would likely have to include a lot of cash to offset that 12.5 million. It would be cheaper to pay the 3 million buyout.



The only reason I can imagine they would continue to play him is for PR purposes as the Pirates are always looking for players in the Dominican Republic. Maybe they are using Polanco to demonstrate how loyal the organization is to such players in order to enhance their chances of signing players.
Being a professional gambler with a career net earnings of -$1426.17 and a psychic, I'm betting you are closer to the truth of the matter.



My only guess is they are evaluating whether they want to invest 12.5 million, which I've pointed out before is a net 9.5 million to play him, because he was going to cost 3 million not to play. The buyout for the 2023 season is 1 million. I really feel they are looking at it from, "do we have a 10.5 million dollar player?" because that's the true cost of keeping him for 2022.



I really don't know. I'm trying to use my psychic abilities but it's cloudy as to whether they actually tell us why they keep playing him.



Never discount the fact that the Pirates are already paying for certain two people not to general manage and field manage (and possibly not to president making 3 ); they're paying a guy not to pitch who was a free agent (Cahill) beyond league minimum; just a couple years back they paid a guy FA money who never played (Chisenhall), and so on. It may be that BOB is getting tired of paying people to do nothing. Polanco has a lot of jerseys in PNC Park, he's exceptionally popular as far as the fans go wanting autographs, etc.



Last but not least, maybe they're tired of hearing Shed say, "Salary dump!"

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:40 pm
by WildwoodDave2
045244505F45555E534476515B575F5A1855360 wrote: There’s no reasonable or acceptable explanation that could be given for Polanco to be on the team, let alone him playing in even a single game. I like Cherington and what he’s done so far but it makes no sense if he’s instructing Shelton to play Polanco or is allowing Shelton to continue placing him in the line-up.
Wainright is so afraid of Polanco, he is going to pitch him left handed

Official Game Thread - 8/11- Bucs vs Cards

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:41 pm
by Surgnbuck
My psychic abilities are turning on. I see the Pirates scoring 8 runs, but I don't know if that's in one game or the rest of the season;



I also see one team scores more than the other tonight, but the numbers and teams are hazy.