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Player Turnover

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:18 am
by fjk090852-7
It appears there are currently only 4 players remaining from the 2019 Opening Day Roster. They are Newman, Moran, Stallings and Brault. Kuhl was on the DL in 2019, and Reynolds and Tucker were not recalled until the collision that Gonzalez and Marte had early in that season.

Player Turnover

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:56 am
by GreenWeenie
Result- 101 losses.



Regardless, makes me wonder what the ideal GPs with a player's current team is for it to win  WS.



Seems to me that world championship teams have guys who have guys who have been together longer than two seasons.  That's just a guess.



But, there's the risk of keeping guys beyond their fresh date.



I wonder if there is a trend for the ideal range.



It would take forever to look at players one at a time.  Is there an easier way?

Player Turnover

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:33 pm
by BellevueBuc
7F4A5D5D566F5D5D56515D380 wrote: Result- 101 losses.



Regardless, makes me wonder what the ideal GPs with a player's current team is for it to win  WS.



Seems to me that world championship teams have guys who have guys who have been together longer than two seasons.  That's just a guess.



But, there's the risk of keeping guys beyond their fresh date.



I wonder if there is a trend for the ideal range.



It would take forever to look at players one at a time.  Is there an easier way?


You could dump players from Fangraphs into excel work that data somehow, maybe a pivot table.

Player Turnover

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:34 pm
by BellevueBuc
777B7A2128212924233C26110 wrote: It appears there are currently only 4 players remaining from the 2019 Opening Day Roster. They are Newman, Moran, Stallings and Brault. Kuhl was on the DL in 2019, and Reynolds and Tucker were not recalled until the collision that Gonzalez and Marte had early in that season.


If Stallings is the only one around for Opening Day, it would not matter. I would assume at least Kuhl is gone.

Player Turnover

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:52 pm
by GreenWeenie
6E494040495A59496E594F2C0 wrote: Result- 101 losses.



Regardless, makes me wonder what the ideal GPs with a player's current team is for it to win  WS.



Seems to me that world championship teams have guys who have guys who have been together longer than two seasons.  That's just a guess.



But, there's the risk of keeping guys beyond their fresh date.



I wonder if there is a trend for the ideal range.



It would take forever to look at players one at a time.  Is there an easier way?


You could dump players from Fangraphs into excel work that data somehow, maybe a pivot table.




A lot of work.  Probably doesn't matter.  I think my gut's close enough to being right, and that's where I see the higher payroll teams have the advantage.  They're able to keep some of their players longer than other clubs.  Yes, they can acquire external talent, too, but being able to keep their home grown guys that they want is a big leg's up.  If you have decent players, playing together longer, that has to help.

Player Turnover

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:13 pm
by BellevueBuc
695C4B4B40794B4B40474B2E0 wrote: Result- 101 losses.



Regardless, makes me wonder what the ideal GPs with a player's current team is for it to win  WS.



Seems to me that world championship teams have guys who have guys who have been together longer than two seasons.  That's just a guess.



But, there's the risk of keeping guys beyond their fresh date.



I wonder if there is a trend for the ideal range.



It would take forever to look at players one at a time.  Is there an easier way?


You could dump players from Fangraphs into excel work that data somehow, maybe a pivot table.




A lot of work.  Probably doesn't matter.  I think my gut's close enough to being right, and that's where I see the higher payroll teams have the advantage.  They're able to keep some of their players longer than other clubs.  Yes, they can acquire external talent, too, but being able to keep their home grown guys that they want is a big leg's up.  If you have decent players, playing together longer, that has to help.




I am surprised none of the baseball database websites do something like this, most common teammates or something like that for each player.

Player Turnover

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:43 pm
by Bobster21
1D3A33333A292A3A1D2A3C5F0 wrote: Result- 101 losses.



Regardless, makes me wonder what the ideal GPs with a player's current team is for it to win  WS.



Seems to me that world championship teams have guys who have guys who have been together longer than two seasons.  That's just a guess.



But, there's the risk of keeping guys beyond their fresh date.



I wonder if there is a trend for the ideal range.



It would take forever to look at players one at a time.  Is there an easier way?


You could dump players from Fangraphs into excel work that data somehow, maybe a pivot table.




A lot of work.  Probably doesn't matter.  I think my gut's close enough to being right, and that's where I see the higher payroll teams have the advantage.  They're able to keep some of their players longer than other clubs.  Yes, they can acquire external talent, too, but being able to keep their home grown guys that they want is a big leg's up.  If you have decent players, playing together longer, that has to help.




I am surprised none of the baseball database websites do something like this, most common teammates or something like that for each player.
I seem to remember some sort of record for Alan Trammell (1977-1996) and Lou Whitaker (1977-1995) being teammates all those years for the Tigers. So maybe somebody keeps track.

Player Turnover

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:49 pm
by GreenWeenie
I believe that you are right. I also seem to recall the Dodgers' infield of Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey.



Those were different eras, I'd be surprised if we see anything like it in these times.