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Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:14 am
by shedman
The Twins sign Hansel Robles for a 1. What say you WWD and GW?



The current standings are:



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).11

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5)..............9.5

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1).................................................................8.5



Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3)............................8

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2).....................................7

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2).........................................4

Red Sox Renfroe(2),Andriese(2)................................................4

Dodgers Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5)................................................3.5

Asros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3



Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3

Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3



Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3

Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5)..............................2.5

Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Tigers - Urena(1)......................................................................1

Twins - Robles(1)......................................................................1

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5



And now there are only 2 other tams in all of baseball which have done nothing to improve their major league roster. What a great strategy. You have the worst team in all of baseball and you do nothing to improve it.

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:19 am
by Surgnbuck
Have faith Shed, everything BC's doing is the perfect tonic. He can do no wrong. He's going to have it all fixed in no time at all. He's tearing out all the old wires, the old connections are done, it's over, these 52 Queens of Hearts say it's over now,.

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:26 am
by GreenWeenie
Surg, Surg, Surg,



I have to teach you everything. You have this half right.



Ben can do no wrong- until his time in The Burgh is up.



Once he's out, THAT's when he does ALL wrong, so that the next guy (or woman) can have maybe five years to see what he or she has.



So, have faith. Ben will do a lot of wrong at some point along the lines, and we will be doing a lot of seeing what we have, year in and year out.



One thing we WON'T have? Payroll.

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:59 am
by GreenWeenie
2.5 to the Phillies for getting Jose Alvarado,



0 to the Dodgers and Rays for getting whatever they got.



What say Shed and 2?

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:33 am
by 2drfischer@gmail.c
38232E2F262A254B0 wrote: The Twins sign Hansel Robles for a 1.  What say you WWD and GW?



The current standings are:



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).11

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5)..............9.5

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1).................................................................8.5



Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3)............................8

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2).....................................7

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2).........................................4                     

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2)................................................4

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5)................................................3.5

Asros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3



Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3

Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3



Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3

Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5)..............................2.5

Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Tigers - Urena(1)......................................................................1

Twins - Robles(1)......................................................................1

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5



And now there are only 2 other tams in all of baseball which have done nothing to improve their major league roster.  What a great strategy.  You have the worst team in all of baseball and you do nothing to improve it.


Perusing your list, 14 of the GMs have either kept their teams stagnant or made them worse, while 14 others have improved their teams. So BC's sitting squarely in the middle, having done nothing good while having done nothing bad. I'd say that's progress over the previous guy.

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:49 am
by GreenWeenie
Except that it's doing nothing better and nothing worse.....to the worst roster known to man.

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:15 pm
by WildwoodDave2
352E23222B2728460 wrote: Adjustment for Greenweenie:



The current standings are:



Padres - O'Grady(.5),Snell(4.5),Kim(1).,Darvish(4.5),Caratini(.5).11

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5),McCann(2.5)..............9.5

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Desclafini(2.5).................

--Brebbia(1).................................................................8.5

Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Rays - Zunino(2),Wacha(2),Mejia(1),Davies(3)............................8

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Holland(3.5)...................................7

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3),Claidio(2).....................................7

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5

Rangers -,Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5),Lowe(1),Dahl(3),Arihara(.5).....6.5

Mariners - Graveman(1),Flexen(2),Montero(2)..............................5

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1),Bell(2).........................................4                     

Red Sox  Renfroe(2),Andriese(2)................................................4

Dodgers  Knebel(1),Kahnle(2.5)................................................3.5

Asros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3

Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3

Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3

Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5),Garcia(.5)..............................2.5

Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Tigers - Urena(1)......................................................................1

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5



The only thing worse than seeing something done wrong is seeing it done slowly.
Robles 1



I rarely question another when they rate a player but did Weenie

really give Zack Davies a 1.

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:17 pm
by WildwoodDave2
774255555E6755555E5955300 wrote: 2.5 to the Phillies for getting Jose Alvarado,



0 to the Dodgers and Rays for getting whatever they got.



What say Shed and 2?  Al



Aivarado gets a 2- coming off two seasons with shoulder problems

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:25 pm
by Surgnbuck
0E3B2C2C271E2C2C27202C490 wrote: Surg, Surg, Surg,



I have to teach you everything.  You have this half right.



Ben can do no wrong- until his time in The Burgh is up.



Once he's out, THAT's when he does ALL wrong, so that the next guy (or woman) can have maybe five years to see what he or she has.



So, have faith.  Ben will do a lot of wrong at some point along the lines, and we will be doing a lot of seeing what we have, year in and year out.



One thing we WON'T have?  Payroll.


You can't teach me anything. Between me and my brother, we know every thing.



Payroll? No coincidence BC is here right now. Knows what's going to change with Covid, and the lockout next year.



When 2023 emerges, the Pirates are going to be the team model for MLB. There may be no 2022, but all these young players, these ones 2-3 years away....guess what? After this season, and a lost one, the Pirates emerge with a young talented ready roster.



Mark my words. 2022 they start showing their mettle, maybe even contend for the division. 2023, WS bound.



He'll be known as Grand Master Ben "Covid-lockout" Cherington.



It's all there. Just go down the rabbit hole. "R" has been posting cryptic info.



WBCGSDTPAAOMLB-"Where Ben Cherington Goes, So Do The Pirates And All Of Major League Baseball"



I'm thinking of making that a bumper sticker

Off Season Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:46 pm
by GreenWeenie
Thanks, Dave.  My boot.  I'll go 2.5. On Davies.



I'll also take Surg up on his WS bet. ;)