516F6A627169696242677063060 wrote: In 1920, Ruth had already hit 42 homers when Chapman was hit on August 16. His great leap forward was from 9 homers at Fenway in 1919 to 29 at the Polo Grounds in 1920. He just needed to get to a park that wasn't killing off his homers.
You're right, I'd forgotten Ruth's first three years in New York were played at the Polo Grounds. But the baseballs being used after Chapman's death contributed to the power surge throughout the game. There's no question Ruth would've hit more HRs than any other player, regardless of the ball. The park, the ball, and his talent were all reasons why.
Ruth was the first one to take advantage of launch angle (I bet he didn't call it that though).
The Babe lived large, he knew no other way, including hitting the ball as far as he could every time. I loved how in the Ken Burns documentary one of Ruth's teammates described him as "a parade (or was it a circus) all by himself".
Wonder how much he would be making today?
Good question. He'd likely be the highest paid player. Trout is highest at almost $38 million per year. Would Ruth top the $40 million/year mark?
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2375637778627279746351767C70787D3F72110 wrote: In 1920, Ruth had already hit 42 homers when Chapman was hit on August 16. His great leap forward was from 9 homers at Fenway in 1919 to 29 at the Polo Grounds in 1920. He just needed to get to a park that wasn't killing off his homers.
You're right, I'd forgotten Ruth's first three years in New York were played at the Polo Grounds. But the baseballs being used after Chapman's death contributed to the power surge throughout the game. There's no question Ruth would've hit more HRs than any other player, regardless of the ball. The park, the ball, and his talent were all reasons why.
Ruth was the first one to take advantage of launch angle (I bet he didn't call it that though).
The Babe lived large, he knew no other way, including hitting the ball as far as he could every time. I loved how in the Ken Burns documentary one of Ruth's teammates described him as "a parade (or was it a circus) all by himself".
Wonder how much he would be making today?
Nothing. He'd be over 120 years old. If BOB thinks 30 is past a player's prime, Babe Ruth surely would be.
In his prime- especially, taking into account that he was with the Yankees then, he would certainly be paid the going rate for the best player in the sport. So, he would have been paid what Barry Bonds was paid then, and maybe more than Trout's getting now to adjust for NYC.
Toward the end, when he tapered off a little, he'd probably get in the range of what Albert Puljos got.
The natural extension from this should be- do you think that the Yankees would have gone after Cole if they were already on the hook for another guy for that much?
I'm thinking that it would be one or the other, just as it played out for him back then. Some team other than the Yankees would pay whatever he'd get.
You're right, I'd forgotten Ruth's first three years in New York were played at the Polo Grounds. But the baseballs being used after Chapman's death contributed to the power surge throughout the game. There's no question Ruth would've hit more HRs than any other player, regardless of the ball. The park, the ball, and his talent were all reasons why.
Ruth was the first one to take advantage of launch angle (I bet he didn't call it that though).
The Babe lived large, he knew no other way, including hitting the ball as far as he could every time. I loved how in the Ken Burns documentary one of Ruth's teammates described him as "a parade (or was it a circus) all by himself".
Wonder how much he would be making today?
Nothing. He'd be over 120 years old. If BOB thinks 30 is past a player's prime, Babe Ruth surely would be.
In his prime- especially, taking into account that he was with the Yankees then, he would certainly be paid the going rate for the best player in the sport. So, he would have been paid what Barry Bonds was paid then, and maybe more than Trout's getting now to adjust for NYC.
Toward the end, when he tapered off a little, he'd probably get in the range of what Albert Puljos got.
The natural extension from this should be- do you think that the Yankees would have gone after Cole if they were already on the hook for another guy for that much?
I'm thinking that it would be one or the other, just as it played out for him back then. Some team other than the Yankees would pay whatever he'd get.
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ArnoldRothstein
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April 28, a full house:
Daniel Moskos (1986): 2011; LHP; 24.1 IP; 1-1, 2.96
Romulo Sanchez (1984): 2007-08; 31.1 IP; 1-0, 4.60
David Freese (1983): 2016-18; 3B; 1104 AB; 32-149-.270
Yoslan Herrera (1981): 2008; RHP; 18.1 IP; 1-1, 9.82
Mark Ryal (1960): 1990; OF; 12 AB; 0-0-.083
Pedro Ramos (1935): 1969; RHP; 6 IP; 0-1, 6.00
Tom Sturdivant (1930): 1961-63; RHP; 219.1 IP; 14-7, 3.49
Red Lucas (1902): 1934-38; RHP; 684.1 IP; 47-32, 3.77
Walt Woods (1875): 1900; RHP; 3 IP; 0-0, 21.00
I think that Sanchez was sometimes referred to as "Romulo!". I was dumbfounded when Herrera made his way back to the majors in 2014 and won a game with the Angels. Some sources list Ryal's birthday as August 28.
Also, Russ Morman (1962): Morman was a first baseman who had a big year for Buffalo in 1993, batting .320 with 22 homers, but got no call up. Ryal was a similar story in 1990, batting .334, though he did get 12 at-bats with Pittsburgh.
Best player born on April 28: Barry Larkin
Daniel Moskos (1986): 2011; LHP; 24.1 IP; 1-1, 2.96
Romulo Sanchez (1984): 2007-08; 31.1 IP; 1-0, 4.60
David Freese (1983): 2016-18; 3B; 1104 AB; 32-149-.270
Yoslan Herrera (1981): 2008; RHP; 18.1 IP; 1-1, 9.82
Mark Ryal (1960): 1990; OF; 12 AB; 0-0-.083
Pedro Ramos (1935): 1969; RHP; 6 IP; 0-1, 6.00
Tom Sturdivant (1930): 1961-63; RHP; 219.1 IP; 14-7, 3.49
Red Lucas (1902): 1934-38; RHP; 684.1 IP; 47-32, 3.77
Walt Woods (1875): 1900; RHP; 3 IP; 0-0, 21.00
I think that Sanchez was sometimes referred to as "Romulo!". I was dumbfounded when Herrera made his way back to the majors in 2014 and won a game with the Angels. Some sources list Ryal's birthday as August 28.
Also, Russ Morman (1962): Morman was a first baseman who had a big year for Buffalo in 1993, batting .320 with 22 homers, but got no call up. Ryal was a similar story in 1990, batting .334, though he did get 12 at-bats with Pittsburgh.
Best player born on April 28: Barry Larkin
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ArnoldRothstein
Today's birthdays
April 29:
Rookie Davis (1993):
Steven Brault (1992):
Tony Armas (1978): 2007; RHP; 97 IP; 4-5, 6.03
John Vander Wal (1966): 2000-01; OF/1B; 697 AB; 35-144-.290
The Armases and the Laws are the only father-son player pairs that I can think of for the Pirates. Is that right? Joel Skinner started out with the organization, but was drafted away before reaching the majors.
Best player born on April 29: Luis Aparicio
April 29, 1934: first Sunday home game in Pittsburgh. The Pirates beat the Reds, 9-5. Red Lucas got the win in his debut for Pittsburgh.
Rookie Davis (1993):
Steven Brault (1992):
Tony Armas (1978): 2007; RHP; 97 IP; 4-5, 6.03
John Vander Wal (1966): 2000-01; OF/1B; 697 AB; 35-144-.290
The Armases and the Laws are the only father-son player pairs that I can think of for the Pirates. Is that right? Joel Skinner started out with the organization, but was drafted away before reaching the majors.
Best player born on April 29: Luis Aparicio
April 29, 1934: first Sunday home game in Pittsburgh. The Pirates beat the Reds, 9-5. Red Lucas got the win in his debut for Pittsburgh.
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ArnoldRothstein
Today's birthdays
April 30:
Jeff Reboulet (1964): 2003; 2B; 261 AB; 3-25-.241
Phil Garner (1949): 1977-81; INF; 2391 AB; 44-280-.267
Tony Brottem (1891): 1921; C; 91 AB; 0-9-.242
Reboulet's older brother, Jim, was in the organization around 1987-88. Similar player to his brother.
Also, Ray Miller (1945): pitching coach, 1987-96; work fast, change speeds, throw strikes.
Best player born on April 30: Charley Jones (1852)
Jeff Reboulet (1964): 2003; 2B; 261 AB; 3-25-.241
Phil Garner (1949): 1977-81; INF; 2391 AB; 44-280-.267
Tony Brottem (1891): 1921; C; 91 AB; 0-9-.242
Reboulet's older brother, Jim, was in the organization around 1987-88. Similar player to his brother.
Also, Ray Miller (1945): pitching coach, 1987-96; work fast, change speeds, throw strikes.
Best player born on April 30: Charley Jones (1852)