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312A27262F232C420 wrote: Thr Royals sign Carlos Santana for a 3.  What say you Greenweenie and Wildwood Dave?



The current standings are:



Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)...............  8

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1),Santana(3)..................................6.5

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2)......................................5

Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3

Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3

Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3

Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3

Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2

Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2

Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1

Dodgers  Knebel(1)...................................................................1

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5

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This is getting so bad that even Surgnbuck will be unable to apologize for Cherington.


Eaton 2.5



Santana 3.5 always liked this guy

The Giants sign Chadwick Tromp for a .5. What say you Greenweenie and Wildwood Dave?



The current standings are:



Braves - Almonte (.5),Tomlin(2),Smyly(3),Morton(2.5)............... 8

Mets - Stroman(3.5),Williams(1),May(2.5)..................................7

Giants - Vosler(1),Gausman(2),Wisler(2),Tromp(.5)...................5.5

Angels - Iglesias(2).Iglesias(3)..................................................5

White Sox - Lynn(4),Eaton(2.5)................................................6.5

Royals - Minor(2.5),Taylor(1)..................................................3.5

Astros - Gurriel(3).....................................................................3

Marlins - Marte(3)......................................................................3

Yankees - Britton(3)...................................................................3

Cubs - Rizzo(3).......................................................................3

Blue Jays- Dolis(2),Ray(1)..........................................................3

Phillies - Neris(3)......................................................................3

Rangers - Heineman(.5),Gotto(.5),Dunning(1.5).........................2.5

Orioles - Iglesias(2.5)..............................................................2.5

Reds - Hoffman-(.5),Ramirez(1.5)..............................................2

Indians - Perez(2.5)...................................................................2

Diamondbacks - Kelly(2)............................................................2

Nationals - Harrison(1),Clay(1)...................................................2

Mariners - Graveman(1).............................................................1

Dodgers Knebel(1)...................................................................1

Rockies - Stephenson(.5).........................................................0.5

Brewers - Maile(.5).................................................................0.5

Padres - O'Grady(.5)...............................................................0.5

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I wonder if the Red Sox have a non-compete Agreement with Cherington, because he certainly is not competing.

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I don't know about the Red Sox, but it looks like the Pirates have a non-compete with EVERYBODY.

GW, you and Shed don't want a house of cards do you? BC is building a foundation, and I invite the two of you aboard this Pirate ship adventure because this season they are going to get your attention, and 2022, they will be sailing the high seas as they become the pride of the NL.

They surprised everyone the year they broke the streak when I wasn't the only one that had them last in the division.



I was wrong then, and might be wrong this coming season.



But, nothing seen so far gives me any confidence.



I think the patience is just about up.

596C7B7B70497B7B70777B1E0 wrote: They surprised everyone the year they broke the streak when I wasn't the only one that had them last in the division.



I was wrong then, and might be wrong this coming season.



But, nothing seen so far gives me any confidence.



I think the patience is just about up.


Don't know what anyone really expected last season. Problem is last season was the year we were supposed to start seeing things moving. No minor league season. Spring training cut short. Season truncated. Not to mention things outside of baseball that had impact.



Face it last year was an audition. It was an elongated spring training. If the Pirates failed at one thing, it's that they should have basically said that's what last year was.



I mean, it's amazing to me how all of a sudden Marte and Archer became favorites of a certain few on here, for no other reason than they had "salary". There isn't a single person I can think of from the previous boards (I don't hold anyone to this from this board) that didn't say to what amounted to "I'd rather see someone playing the game fundamentally sound instead of this guy who has talent but doesn't display it consistently". And that's wording it in a nice way. Yet once he was traded, you'd have thought Babe Ruth was traded. We got exactly what so many people said he was worth.



They had nothing to trade to build. All this talk about Frazier, Bell, whoever....they have no one that would bring even one top caliber prospect. They didn't even get a regular draft his first time out.



Everything is getting churned over at the bottom. I'm willing to let the foundation settle. I get BC took over not only on a late call, but he took over in the worst possible scenario. 



Why do I have faith in BC?  He hasn't made one excuse. And he hasn't spent a lot of time on "Hot Stove" and "High Heat" blowing smoke like NH loved to do. That guy had a prepared speech, and said it over and over and over and over on any outlet he could. BC isn't politicizing things. He's also just simply taking care of business.



Unlike NH, he's going about what he knows he can do. He isn't trying to sell a friggin thing to any of us. At best publicity wise, he's perfunctory.



Know who he reminds me of? You're old enough to appreciate the trajectory of the following guy. A guy who took over the worst team in the league.....and they got even WORSE. The fans questioned him. In four years though, he began what became the reign of....The Emperor Chaz.



Yep, BC reminds me of Chuck Noll. All business. He's the steak, not the sizzle.



Adam Berry talking "4-5 years" to get to relevance? I'm betting it starts this season, and 2022 will be like the '91 Braves.***



***Disclaimer....I am not predicting 14 straight division titles

5C7A7D68616D7A6C640F0 wrote: GW, you and Shed don't want a house of cards do you?  BC is building a foundation, and I invite the two of you aboard this Pirate ship adventure because this season they are going to get your attention, and 2022, they will be sailing the high seas as they become the pride of the NL.
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"Wait until next year" - There you go kicking the can down the road again. Then next year you will be on here say wait until 2023 and so on and so on.

4E555859505C533D0 wrote: GW, you and Shed don't want a house of cards do you?  BC is building a foundation, and I invite the two of you aboard this Pirate ship adventure because this season they are going to get your attention, and 2022, they will be sailing the high seas as they become the pride of the NL.
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"Wait until next year" -  There you go kicking the can down the road again.  Then next year you will be on here say wait until 2023 and so on and so on.
You're exactly right. They should win the WS every year. Should have won it last year. No reason not to expect that of them this year.



Anything less than that is "kicking the can".



That being said, while you sit at home waiting, I'll be enjoying the ride. I'm a Pirate for Life. Give me that horizon. Arrrrrr

Indianapolis, Altoona, Greensboro, Bradenton to the Pirates.



I give that a "5".

597F786D64687F69610A0 wrote: Indianapolis, Altoona, Greensboro, Bradenton to the Pirates.



I give that a "5".


I give it a -5 for not using Morgantown.