Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:01 am
Well, that will have to be later on today, Mitchell grounds out.
He's due.
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Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:05 am
My money says Possum's going to be Mr. June 8.
He's due.
He's due.
Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:13 am
496F687D74786F79711A0 wrote: [highlight]Looks like the Quintana magic has worn off. Last two starts, started out well, then second time through the order[/highlight], a lot of hits with 2 strikes. Can't put people away.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:27 am
Calling for guys to be dumped for suspects is an automatic disqualifier. Doc is out of the running for Mr. June 8.
Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:56 am
2375637778627279746351767C70787D3F72110 wrote: [highlight]Looks like the Quintana magic has worn off. Last two starts, started out well, then second time through the order[/highlight], a lot of hits with 2 strikes. Can't put people away.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:38 am
634E43525544531310210 wrote: [highlight]Looks like the Quintana magic has worn off. Last two starts, started out well, then second time through the order[/highlight], a lot of hits with 2 strikes. Can't put people away.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
What would the Pirates be reclaiming him for? He has no long-term future as a starting pitcher for the team. I agree one reason BC signed him was because he had no pitching, but also in the hope that he'd perform well enough to get some kind of a return from a team desperate for a lefty (not necessarily a starter) at the end of the season.
There was nothing to lose by doing so. If Quintana failed, there would be no harm to a team destined to lose more than 90 games anyway. If he did well, the Pirates could get a young player who might pan out. That's different than just letting a free agent walk and getting nothing at all.
With the playoffs being expanded, more teams will be in contention at the Deadline, which means more teams likely competing for pitching. That improves the chances of getting a better return.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
What would the Pirates be reclaiming him for? He has no long-term future as a starting pitcher for the team. I agree one reason BC signed him was because he had no pitching, but also in the hope that he'd perform well enough to get some kind of a return from a team desperate for a lefty (not necessarily a starter) at the end of the season.
There was nothing to lose by doing so. If Quintana failed, there would be no harm to a team destined to lose more than 90 games anyway. If he did well, the Pirates could get a young player who might pan out. That's different than just letting a free agent walk and getting nothing at all.
With the playoffs being expanded, more teams will be in contention at the Deadline, which means more teams likely competing for pitching. That improves the chances of getting a better return.
Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:56 pm
6E382E3A352F3F34392E1C3B313D3530723F5C0 wrote: [highlight]Looks like the Quintana magic has worn off. Last two starts, started out well, then second time through the order[/highlight], a lot of hits with 2 strikes. Can't put people away.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
What would the Pirates be reclaiming him for? He has no long-term future as a starting pitcher for the team. I agree one reason BC signed him was because he had no pitching, but also in the hope that he'd perform well enough to get some kind of a return from a team desperate for a lefty (not necessarily a starter) at the end of the season.
There was nothing to lose by doing so. If Quintana failed, there would be no harm to a team destined to lose more than 90 games anyway. If he did well, the Pirates could get a young player who might pan out. That's different than just letting a free agent walk and getting nothing at all.
With the playoffs being expanded, more teams will be in contention at the Deadline, which means more teams likely competing for pitching. That improves the chances of getting a better return.
Reclamation project just means he's been injured and ineffective and they took a flier on him to see if he could regain his former effectiveness (at a low price because he's not in demand) since they basically have no starting pitching. They've had success over the years doing that with declining veteran pitchers. It doesn't always work (Vogelsong, Bedard). But it's a cheap way to try to find pitching.
Trading a guy on a 1-year contract at the TDL makes him available to his new team for just a couple months, so the return for them is minimal. Probably some not too highly regarded 19 year old in a Rookie League. So the value to the Pirates is more of what the pitcher can provide for them until he's traded (some rotation stability) rather than the modest return they can flip him for at the TDL.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
What would the Pirates be reclaiming him for? He has no long-term future as a starting pitcher for the team. I agree one reason BC signed him was because he had no pitching, but also in the hope that he'd perform well enough to get some kind of a return from a team desperate for a lefty (not necessarily a starter) at the end of the season.
There was nothing to lose by doing so. If Quintana failed, there would be no harm to a team destined to lose more than 90 games anyway. If he did well, the Pirates could get a young player who might pan out. That's different than just letting a free agent walk and getting nothing at all.
With the playoffs being expanded, more teams will be in contention at the Deadline, which means more teams likely competing for pitching. That improves the chances of getting a better return.
Reclamation project just means he's been injured and ineffective and they took a flier on him to see if he could regain his former effectiveness (at a low price because he's not in demand) since they basically have no starting pitching. They've had success over the years doing that with declining veteran pitchers. It doesn't always work (Vogelsong, Bedard). But it's a cheap way to try to find pitching.
Trading a guy on a 1-year contract at the TDL makes him available to his new team for just a couple months, so the return for them is minimal. Probably some not too highly regarded 19 year old in a Rookie League. So the value to the Pirates is more of what the pitcher can provide for them until he's traded (some rotation stability) rather than the modest return they can flip him for at the TDL.
Game Thread - 6/7 - Bucs vs Tigers
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:43 pm
795459484F5E49090A3B0 wrote: [highlight]Looks like the Quintana magic has worn off. Last two starts, started out well, then second time through the order[/highlight], a lot of hits with 2 strikes. Can't put people away.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
What would the Pirates be reclaiming him for? He has no long-term future as a starting pitcher for the team. I agree one reason BC signed him was because he had no pitching, but also in the hope that he'd perform well enough to get some kind of a return from a team desperate for a lefty (not necessarily a starter) at the end of the season.
There was nothing to lose by doing so. If Quintana failed, there would be no harm to a team destined to lose more than 90 games anyway. If he did well, the Pirates could get a young player who might pan out. That's different than just letting a free agent walk and getting nothing at all.
With the playoffs being expanded, more teams will be in contention at the Deadline, which means more teams likely competing for pitching. That improves the chances of getting a better return.
Reclamation project just means he's been injured and ineffective and they took a flier on him to see if he could regain his former effectiveness (at a low price because he's not in demand) since they basically have no starting pitching. They've had success over the years doing that with declining veteran pitchers. It doesn't always work (Vogelsong, Bedard). But it's a cheap way to try to find pitching.
Trading a guy on a 1-year contract at the TDL makes him available to his new team for just a couple months, so the return for them is minimal. Probably some not too highly regarded 19 year old in a Rookie League. So the value to the Pirates is more of what the pitcher can provide for them until he's traded (some rotation stability) rather than the modest return they can flip him for at the TDL.
I still think there's more to his signing than just filling a rotation spot. If the Pirates get lucky and he has a decent first half, they can parlay him into another player. I don't think anyone expects Quintana to be here for multiple years.
Obviously, no one would anticipate a highly-rated prospect coming in return. But just like Quintana has performed better than most would've expected, a prospect coming here might do the same. As I said before, there's nothing to lose.
Just like the Dodger start, he was throwing batting practice by the time he left.
Hope he gets something figured out, he's throwing a ton of strikes, but what's happening with 2 strike counts is a mystery why he's serving up meatballs. It's almost like he's tipping his pitches
Not to worry. Quintana was signed in order to trade him at the Deadline. Another team may not need a starter but a lefty out of the pen who just needs to face one batter or pitch one inning. Quintana can fit that bill.
They signed Quintana as a reclamation project because they had no starting pitching. Trading a FA on a 1-year contract at the TDL during a losing season is the alternative to having them walk at the end of the season and get nothing in return. It's not the reason he was signed. The return on him will likely be minimal.
What would the Pirates be reclaiming him for? He has no long-term future as a starting pitcher for the team. I agree one reason BC signed him was because he had no pitching, but also in the hope that he'd perform well enough to get some kind of a return from a team desperate for a lefty (not necessarily a starter) at the end of the season.
There was nothing to lose by doing so. If Quintana failed, there would be no harm to a team destined to lose more than 90 games anyway. If he did well, the Pirates could get a young player who might pan out. That's different than just letting a free agent walk and getting nothing at all.
With the playoffs being expanded, more teams will be in contention at the Deadline, which means more teams likely competing for pitching. That improves the chances of getting a better return.
Reclamation project just means he's been injured and ineffective and they took a flier on him to see if he could regain his former effectiveness (at a low price because he's not in demand) since they basically have no starting pitching. They've had success over the years doing that with declining veteran pitchers. It doesn't always work (Vogelsong, Bedard). But it's a cheap way to try to find pitching.
Trading a guy on a 1-year contract at the TDL makes him available to his new team for just a couple months, so the return for them is minimal. Probably some not too highly regarded 19 year old in a Rookie League. So the value to the Pirates is more of what the pitcher can provide for them until he's traded (some rotation stability) rather than the modest return they can flip him for at the TDL.
I still think there's more to his signing than just filling a rotation spot. If the Pirates get lucky and he has a decent first half, they can parlay him into another player. I don't think anyone expects Quintana to be here for multiple years.
Obviously, no one would anticipate a highly-rated prospect coming in return. But just like Quintana has performed better than most would've expected, a prospect coming here might do the same. As I said before, there's nothing to lose.