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I was surprised at that too. I know it's based ln defensive metrics. But the eye test tells me he's pretty solid in the OF.Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:29 am Only got to see the last two innings. Ortiz seems to have pitched a gem.
I did get to see two very good catches by Reynolds. I was surprised to read
that Reynolds has the worst fielding percentage of all Left Fielders.
I was informed back on the old PMB that I was a dinosaur for still believing in the eye test, that it was useless. Only numbers derived from PhD-type calculations can determine a player's abilities and value. Watching a player actually play was so 20th Century.Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:30 pmI was surprised at that too. I know it's based ln defensive metrics. But the eye test tells me he's pretty solid in the OF.Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:29 am Only got to see the last two innings. Ortiz seems to have pitched a gem.
I did get to see two very good catches by Reynolds. I was surprised to read
that Reynolds has the worst fielding percentage of all Left Fielders.
Doc wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:36 pmI was informed back on the old PMB that I was a dinosaur for still believing in the eye test, that it was useless. Only numbers derived from PhD-type calculations can determine a player's abilities and value. Watching a player actually play was so 20th Century.Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 1:30 pmI was surprised at that too. I know it's based ln defensive metrics. But the eye test tells me he's pretty solid in the OF.Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:29 am Only got to see the last two innings. Ortiz seems to have pitched a gem.
I did get to see two very good catches by Reynolds. I was surprised to read
that Reynolds has the worst fielding percentage of all Left Fielders.
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Yeah, the thing about those calculations is that fans cannot compute them. We just get told what someone's number is. BA, OBP, SLG, ERA all have specific meanings. But now we get someone's total zone rating of how many runs he theoretically saves. And players are rated on that theory. Just like WAR. Players are rated by how many more imaginary runs they are good for than an imaginary AAA player who could theoretically replace them. And it's not a value fans can compute. We just get told what each player's exact number is. But the result is that players who fans know are good have higher scores than players that fans know are not as good. So fans don't really need to consult WAR if they pay enough attention to how the players perform.
Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 5:31 pmI’ve always felt the same way. From the time we were kids we’ve understood what it meant for a player to have a certain batting average, home run and RBI totals, wins, and ERA. And all of them were easy to compute because they were found through basic arithmetic. Those stats still hold true today, I don’t care what the geeks say.Doc wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:36 pmI was informed back on the old PMB that I was a dinosaur for still believing in the eye test, that it was useless. Only numbers derived from PhD-type calculations can determine a player's abilities and value. Watching a player actually play was so 20th Century.
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Yeah, the thing about those calculations is that fans cannot compute them. We just get told what someone's number is. BA, OBP, SLG, ERA all have specific meanings. But now we get someone's total zone rating of how many runs he theoretically saves. And players are rated on that theory. Just like WAR. Players are rated by how many more imaginary runs they are good for than an imaginary AAA player who could theoretically replace them. And it's not a value fans can compute. We just get told what each player's exact number is. But the result is that players who fans know are good have higher scores than players that fans know are not as good. So fans don't really need to consult WAR if they pay enough attention to how the players perform.