04232A2A23303323043325460 wrote: So --- You want to keep Polanco?
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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00332F2E2D25132E3529323524282F410 wrote: Polanco hit 23 homers in 2018 before he did his swan dive. He only had 341 plate appearances combined in 2019-20.
I've said this before: if Polanco was floating around for free, a lot of people would advocate taking a flier on him. Well, for the Pirates he is pretty nearly free unless, someone will take his salary. The big question is: is he actually blocking anyone? As always, there's only four outfielders on the 40-man roster, so I don't think he's being pushed aside.
Babe, in this era of power, 23 HRs isn't note worthy. Second baseman are doing that. And for a guy who we were told was going to be a power hitter, having reached just 23 HRs in one season over seven years, really isn't impressive.
I've said this before: if Polanco was floating around for free, a lot of people would advocate taking a flier on him. Well, for the Pirates he is pretty nearly free unless, someone will take his salary. The big question is: is he actually blocking anyone? As always, there's only four outfielders on the 40-man roster, so I don't think he's being pushed aside.
Babe, in this era of power, 23 HRs isn't note worthy. Second baseman are doing that. And for a guy who we were told was going to be a power hitter, having reached just 23 HRs in one season over seven years, really isn't impressive.
Adam Frazier
6D3B2D39362C3C373A2D1F38323E3633713C5F0 wrote: Polanco hit 23 homers in 2018 before he did his swan dive. He only had 341 plate appearances combined in 2019-20.
I've said this before: if Polanco was floating around for free, a lot of people would advocate taking a flier on him. Well, for the Pirates he is pretty nearly free unless, someone will take his salary. The big question is: is he actually blocking anyone? As always, there's only four outfielders on the 40-man roster, so I don't think he's being pushed aside.
Babe, in this era of power, 23 HRs isn't note worthy. Second baseman are doing that. And for a guy who we were told was going to be a power hitter, having reached just 23 HRs in one season over seven years, really isn't impressive.
23 homers is impressive for a Pirate though. Bell, Polanco, Pedro and Cutch are only ones to hit that many since 2015.
I've said this before: if Polanco was floating around for free, a lot of people would advocate taking a flier on him. Well, for the Pirates he is pretty nearly free unless, someone will take his salary. The big question is: is he actually blocking anyone? As always, there's only four outfielders on the 40-man roster, so I don't think he's being pushed aside.
Babe, in this era of power, 23 HRs isn't note worthy. Second baseman are doing that. And for a guy who we were told was going to be a power hitter, having reached just 23 HRs in one season over seven years, really isn't impressive.
23 homers is impressive for a Pirate though. Bell, Polanco, Pedro and Cutch are only ones to hit that many since 2015.
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173130273121520 wrote: Polanco hit 23 homers in 2018 before he did his swan dive. He only had 341 plate appearances combined in 2019-20.
I've said this before: if Polanco was floating around for free, a lot of people would advocate taking a flier on him. Well, for the Pirates he is pretty nearly free unless, someone will take his salary. The big question is: is he actually blocking anyone? As always, there's only four outfielders on the 40-man roster, so I don't think he's being pushed aside.
Babe, in this era of power, 23 HRs isn't note worthy. Second baseman are doing that. And for a guy who we were told was going to be a power hitter, having reached just 23 HRs in one season over seven years, really isn't impressive.
23 homers is impressive for a Pirate though. Bell, Polanco, Pedro and Cutch are only ones to hit that many since 2015.
Which is one of the reasons why the team has failed each year since 2015. Comparing a Pirates HR hitter with other Pirates HR hitters isn't impressive. The Pirates need HR hitters who can be compared to teams that have multiple players hit lots and lots of HRs.
I've said this before: if Polanco was floating around for free, a lot of people would advocate taking a flier on him. Well, for the Pirates he is pretty nearly free unless, someone will take his salary. The big question is: is he actually blocking anyone? As always, there's only four outfielders on the 40-man roster, so I don't think he's being pushed aside.
Babe, in this era of power, 23 HRs isn't note worthy. Second baseman are doing that. And for a guy who we were told was going to be a power hitter, having reached just 23 HRs in one season over seven years, really isn't impressive.
23 homers is impressive for a Pirate though. Bell, Polanco, Pedro and Cutch are only ones to hit that many since 2015.
Which is one of the reasons why the team has failed each year since 2015. Comparing a Pirates HR hitter with other Pirates HR hitters isn't impressive. The Pirates need HR hitters who can be compared to teams that have multiple players hit lots and lots of HRs.
Adam Frazier
3F697F6B647E6E65687F4D6A606C6461236E0D0 wrote: So --- You want to keep Polanco?
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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"We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him." - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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"We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him." - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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130805040D010E600 wrote: So --- You want to keep Polanco?
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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"We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him." - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You're so mature.
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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"We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him." - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
You're so mature.
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7325332728322229243301262C20282D6F22410 wrote: So --- You want to keep Polanco?
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
Thats not accurate. Polanco was very good a few years ago, and has been injured since.
They are paying him $11M next year either way, they might as well play him. This team is going to be terrible next year anyways. They can also trade for a player during the season if Polanco still stinks. They also can wait until after winter ball. At this point, they should play him.
Polanco did not destroy the ball at times, and every major leaguer does not do that. Polanco almost never made soft contact last year, that is not even close to normal. It was most certainly a timing thing with Polanco due to lack of playing time, not liking him does not change that.
How is he inconsistent? He struggled, played well and then got hurt. How is he over rated? Who is rating him high? He is a solid starting RF when healthy, which he has been in 3 of his 4 full seasons.
One thing is 100% certain, this team should not waste their few assets on someone that can play RF next year.
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
Thats not accurate. Polanco was very good a few years ago, and has been injured since.
They are paying him $11M next year either way, they might as well play him. This team is going to be terrible next year anyways. They can also trade for a player during the season if Polanco still stinks. They also can wait until after winter ball. At this point, they should play him.
Polanco did not destroy the ball at times, and every major leaguer does not do that. Polanco almost never made soft contact last year, that is not even close to normal. It was most certainly a timing thing with Polanco due to lack of playing time, not liking him does not change that.
How is he inconsistent? He struggled, played well and then got hurt. How is he over rated? Who is rating him high? He is a solid starting RF when healthy, which he has been in 3 of his 4 full seasons.
One thing is 100% certain, this team should not waste their few assets on someone that can play RF next year.
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Adam Frazier
4C575A5B525E513F0 wrote: So --- You want to keep Polanco?
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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"We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him." - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Probably should have went with that, well said sir.
Keeping Polanco is not a bad idea. No one will trade for him, they have no prospects to play RF and Polanco's issue was clearly due to lack of playing time. His K rate was extremely abnormal for him, playing winter ball is a big deal. He was destroying the ball at times, he gets on track he is a player to keep, not get rid of for some random minor leaguer.
We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him.
Polanco's issue wasn't due to a lack of playing time. He's overrated. He isn't that good. He's proven it over seven years with his maddening inconsistency.
Nearly every major league player "destroys" the ball at times. We were told Polanco would do it on a regular basis. It hasn't happened. He'll hit for four days and then disappear for two weeks. And that's when he stays healthy, which is a rarity.
Time to part ways with him. It'll be addition by subtraction.
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"We may not have any prospects to play RF but that doesn't preclude the club from trading for a player to replace him." - hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Probably should have went with that, well said sir.
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Polanco was missing meatballs down the middle. He had very obvious swing issues and did not look comfortable. Trading or releasing him because he costs too much would be unwise. He is exactly the player the Pirates should be trading FOR, not trading away.
Polanco was missing meatballs down the middle. He had very obvious swing issues and did not look comfortable. Trading or releasing him because he costs too much would be unwise. He is exactly the player the Pirates should be trading FOR, not trading away.
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To answer the original question of this thread, they might as well keep Frazier as well for the same reason they should keep Bell. They hit like complete dog dirt, and will get nothing for them in a trade.
Trade Moran, at least you might find a team desperate enough that will take him and give you something. Maybe an AL team will be able to use him in a DH platoon. Unless they keep the DH in the NL.
Trade Moran, at least you might find a team desperate enough that will take him and give you something. Maybe an AL team will be able to use him in a DH platoon. Unless they keep the DH in the NL.