Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
McCutchen's drop off
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McCutchen's drop off
002F38392F3321294A0 wrote: Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
Got four of their ten prospects in those two trades.
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
Got four of their ten prospects in those two trades.
McCutchen's drop off
436C7B7A6C70626A090 wrote: Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
McCutchen's drop off
5A67607A67600E0 wrote: Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
Got four of their ten prospects in those two trades.
Not only that, Chapman was a rental that the Yankees knew would re-sign with them after the season.
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
Got four of their ten prospects in those two trades.
Not only that, Chapman was a rental that the Yankees knew would re-sign with them after the season.
McCutchen's drop off
5378747D7879232E170 wrote: Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Neither Miller or Chapman are overvalued - both were big piece in the World Series last year. If both were on the Bucs this year, we'd be in first place.
Closest 2 relievers the Bucs ever had to those 2 were Face and Tekulve.
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Neither Miller or Chapman are overvalued - both were big piece in the World Series last year. If both were on the Bucs this year, we'd be in first place.
Closest 2 relievers the Bucs ever had to those 2 were Face and Tekulve.
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McCutchen's drop off
4F607776607C6E66050 wrote: Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Neither Miller or Chapman are overvalued - both were big piece in the World Series last year. If both were on the Bucs this year, we'd be in first place.
Closest 2 relievers the Bucs ever had to those 2 were Face and Tekulve.
Don't forget Giusti and Gossage.
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Neither Miller or Chapman are overvalued - both were big piece in the World Series last year. If both were on the Bucs this year, we'd be in first place.
Closest 2 relievers the Bucs ever had to those 2 were Face and Tekulve.
Don't forget Giusti and Gossage.
McCutchen's drop off
1E312627312D3F37540 wrote: Clint Frazier came over from Cleveland for Andrew Miller
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Neither Miller or Chapman are overvalued - both were big piece in the World Series last year. If both were on the Bucs this year, we'd be in first place.
Closest 2 relievers the Bucs ever had to those 2 were Face and Tekulve.
No one denies their ability. It's their role that is the problem. I don't believe that relievers are worth what a Miller or Chapman would demand in a trade, or on the free-agent marker. Hence, overvalued.
IMO, you don't value a reliever that much, not even a crazy-good amazing lights-out closer. Starters, now, that's different.
Impressive "rebuild" but they had premium bullpen arms to deal in Miller and Chapman.
So, you're saying the Yankees traded overvalued bullpen arms to add high quality prospects to their farm? Interesting.
Neither Miller or Chapman are overvalued - both were big piece in the World Series last year. If both were on the Bucs this year, we'd be in first place.
Closest 2 relievers the Bucs ever had to those 2 were Face and Tekulve.
No one denies their ability. It's their role that is the problem. I don't believe that relievers are worth what a Miller or Chapman would demand in a trade, or on the free-agent marker. Hence, overvalued.
IMO, you don't value a reliever that much, not even a crazy-good amazing lights-out closer. Starters, now, that's different.
McCutchen's drop off
Cutch was just named player of the month for June. It is his 5th time winning the award.
McCutchen's drop off
We must get a haul from trading Cutch. We need to find a Giles /Bay type.
McCutchen's drop off
013A303B17530 wrote: We must get a haul from trading Cutch. We need to find a Giles /Bay type.
You mean someone we can pawn off in five years for the 2022 versions of Brandon Moss, Bryan Morris and Andy LaRoche?
You mean someone we can pawn off in five years for the 2022 versions of Brandon Moss, Bryan Morris and Andy LaRoche?