OnlyBucs

7D43464E5D45454E6E4B5C4F2A0 wrote: Shelty for sticking with Polanco.   :D
Shelty sticking with polanco because [highlight]Nutting told him too[/highlight]


BOB is just trying to find a taker for Polanco without having to eat a lot of his contract. In fact, BOB would most likely take a new lawnmower for his servant to ride around on his estate in exchange for not having to eat any of Polanco's salary.

Polanco is the SOG! There was no doubt about it!

y vote for SOG goes to Polanco. Maybe we should hold up on the get rid of Polanco movement.



The current count is:



Polanco - 5



Get your votes in before the start of the next game.

6E757879707C731D0 wrote: Worth noting, the team is at 7 and 17.



I would argue that no one is helping the team win consistently.  @@@@



Therefore, Polanco is about as good as any, by that standard.



Then, no player who would be received for him will "help the team win consistently."  They wouldn't even BE here for at least two more years; if they make it to the majors wearing a Pirates uniform even one time.



And, then.....chances are- just a future version of Polanco.



I would bet on that before I would bet on him being the next Clemente, the next Stargell, or the next....whomever.



No wonder we lose.
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Exactly.  I would love to have someone better than Polanco to play RF, but I am not interested in another LMG while we play for a future that never arrives in Pittsburgh.  That is not a prescription for us to win consistently.




If the Pirates roster was made-up of 25 LMGs, and they won the World Series next year, would you be okay with that? 


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I would be OK with that.  Now, if the roster was made up of 25 LMG's would you be OK with them saying it will take time to build a championship team and babble on about the future?




It would depend.  If among the 25 players more than a handful were obviously talented, I'd be willing to watch that team grow.  But we all know that signing some number of free agents and making trades to complete that team would be necessary.  That's where I don't trust the owner to do what it would take to get the job done.  So it's not the GM who I perceive to be the main concern in this scenario, it's the owner.  It's always going to be the owner.


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So, if they had 25 LMG's you would be OK with it so long as Cherington had a good line of bull.


Are you having a senior moment?  Let's start again.  As my post said, if more than a handful of the LMGs were obviously good players, I'd be okay with watching the team grow.  If we could all see that those players were good, there wouldn't be any bull from Cherington.  Again, as we all know, it would be up to Nutting to do what a real owner would do:  help his GM complete the roster with what's needed.  But we all know what would happen.


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We will have to agree to disagree.  I would not be OK with it if we had 25 LMG's even if a handful were good players.  There is absolutely no excuse for a major league baseball team being unwilling to pay some of their players the market rate.  We can watch the team grow with a team salary equal to what Milwaukee and Cincinnati are willing to pay.




I agree with your premise.  It's totally unreasonable to expect 25 inexperienced players to win a championship.  And it's nearly criminal to have an owner unwilling to acquire and pay for proven, experienced players when the time is right.  [highlight]But we all know we have an owner like that.[/highlight]  So it's going to be up to Cherington to build a roster with young players and hope he's way better than Huntington in acquiring and developing those players.  I admit hope isn't a plan.  However, if we're forced to put our faith in BC doing his job or Nutting doing his, I have to give Cherington the chance.



See you in the morning.
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You were doing so good until you put that word "but" in there.


Are you saying we don't have an owner like that?

GOG

Shelton - 2

Feliz - 2

Rodriguez - 2

Del Pozo - 2

Neverauskus - 2

Musgrove - 1

Cherington - 2

Holland - 1

Stratton - 1

Williams - .5

Crick - .5

Polanco - .5

Howard - .5



SOG

Frazier - 2

Keller - 1

Newman - 1

Moran - 1

Reynolds - 1

Polanco - 1

A no hitter with 13 strike outs. My vote for GOG goes to Cherington. When will he understand that minor league ballplayers just can't compete with major league ball players. That's why they have minor leagues.



The current count is:



Cherington - 1



Get your votes in before the start of the next game.

Take a team that finished last season the way it did.



Do nothing to improve it.



What you get is this.





Ben Cherington, a guy who thinks that some guys on this team will be here when the teams gets good, clearly the GOG.

5F6A7D7D764F7D7D76717D180 wrote: Take a team that finished last season the way it did.



Do nothing to improve it.



What you get is this.



When you get no hits, you can't blame anyone player.Gotta blame the guy at the top.- Cherington for the GOG

Ben Cherington, a guy who thinks that some guys on this team will be here when the teams gets good, clearly the GOG. 

625C5951425A5A5171544350350 wrote: Take a team that finished last season the way it did.



Do nothing to improve it.



What you get is this.



When you get no hits, you can't blame anyone player.Gotta blame the guy at the top.- Cherington for the GOG

Ben Cherington, a guy who thinks that some guys on this team will be here when the teams gets good, clearly the GOG. 

This will give Cherington the overall lead

Brault. Somehow managed to cram 5 hits, 4 walks and 4 runs into a mere 3 innings.