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625740404B7240404B4C40250 wrote: The Nutting regime has been nothing but a bunch of BS and lip service. Yet during that time the Pirate franchise has increased in value from $192M to $1.2B dollars. That is a billion dollars of equity Nutting is sitting on.



At least when McClatchy owned the team he made good on his promises. He promised to get PNC built. He promised to keep Pirate stars after PNC was built which he did by handing out market value long term contracts to Jason Kendall and Brian Giles.

Unfortunately McClatchy did not have the deep pockets to adequately fund the ball club and had to give up majority interest to the devil, I mean Nutting



Of course Nutting would not consider allowing Mark Cuban to buy in and become the majority stake holder. So here we are with a perpetual AAAA franchise in Pittsburgh


We've seen the play before!



https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1590345753 ... _=tt_ov_vi
You might be onto something. If they turn MLB into a musical comedy, Nutting will be the star!

3C6A7C68677D6D666B7C4E69636F6762206D0E0 wrote: I thought that it was Reynolds who is taking the club to arbitration.  He rejected the offer.  Am I mistaken?



As for the rest, I stopped reading any articles as soon as they were quoted....probably over ten years ago.   Why?  Because they piss me off every time.



I dont care what they or he say.  I care what they do.



Which also means that I care what they don't do.
They could not agree to a figure so under the CBA they head to an arbitration hearing. I am sure you are aware of the  arbitration process under the CBA since you post on this site quite regularly. The player and the Pirates decided to use a third party to settle Reynolds 2022 salary.  Bottom line in my opinion, a team does not go to arbitration with their best player over this amount.



I agree with your final sentence.  It's the Pirates.  It's what they do.   Doesn't surprise me in the least. 



Remember, this franchise is owned by the man who hired a lawyer (Coonelly) who represented MLB and assisted clubs in arbitration hearings to be the club's president.  Nutting is anti-labor, cut and dry.
Agree with you. I was always holding out hope that things would change under the current FO group.  I guess they remain the same.


I thought Travis Williams was going to be a great asset to the Pirates.  Nothing possibly could've been worse than Frank Coonelly.  But he's been invisible.  I have no idea what his duties are.  I still think Cherington, as GM, has done great work in the very areas that needed addressed first.  The common theme that runs through this administration and the previous one is Bob Nutting. 



Truthfully, none of us should be surprised with the Reynolds situation.  Nutting's fingerprints are all over it.  But, if they're not, he should've stepped in and ordered the team's contract negotiator to pay Reynolds the amount his agent submitted.  So, either way, this whole mess begins and ends with Nutting.
I thought travis Williams was a basketball player

1927222A3921212A0A2F382B7C4E0 wrote: I thought that it was Reynolds who is taking the club to arbitration.  He rejected the offer.  Am I mistaken?



As for the rest, I stopped reading any articles as soon as they were quoted....probably over ten years ago.   Why?  Because they piss me off every time.



I dont care what they or he say.  I care what they do.



Which also means that I care what they don't do.
They could not agree to a figure so under the CBA they head to an arbitration hearing. I am sure you are aware of the  arbitration process under the CBA since you post on this site quite regularly. The player and the Pirates decided to use a third party to settle Reynolds 2022 salary.  Bottom line in my opinion, a team does not go to arbitration with their best player over this amount.



I agree with your final sentence.  It's the Pirates.  It's what they do.   Doesn't surprise me in the least. 



Remember, this franchise is owned by the man who hired a lawyer (Coonelly) who represented MLB and assisted clubs in arbitration hearings to be the club's president.  Nutting is anti-labor, cut and dry.
Agree with you. I was always holding out hope that things would change under the current FO group.  I guess they remain the same.


I thought Travis Williams was going to be a great asset to the Pirates.  Nothing possibly could've been worse than Frank Coonelly.  But he's been invisible.  I have no idea what his duties are.  I still think Cherington, as GM, has done great work in the very areas that needed addressed first.  The common theme that runs through this administration and the previous one is Bob Nutting. 



Truthfully, none of us should be surprised with the Reynolds situation.  Nutting's fingerprints are all over it.  But, if they're not, he should've stepped in and ordered the team's contract negotiator to pay Reynolds the amount his agent submitted.  So, either way, this whole mess begins and ends with Nutting.
I thought travis Williams was a basketball player


Maybe we never hear from him because he's riding the bench for the Utah Jazz.

Everybody knows Travis Williams is the latest country music stud.



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