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Carolina Bucco wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:11 am The whole "resting" think drives me nuts.

The Pirates were off last Monday.

Cutch and Gonzalez were given the day off to "rest" last Thursday.

The Pirates were off again this past Thursday.

So in a span of 10 days, Cutch and GOnzalez had 3 days to "rest."

So OF COURSE they needed another day off today after playing TWO WHOLE GAMES IN A ROW !!!

Honestly it's just idiotic.

Your best players should get 1 day off every 2 weeks ... because they also get team off-days built in as well.

Drives me crazy ...

Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:42 pm

Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:15 pm Think how difficult it is for a Pirate starter who knows that he has to
pitch a shutout for a chance to win.

I feel bad for Keller because he signed an extension. Skenes and Jones likely see this as a steppingstone to a career somewhere else, as Cole did. They know the team doesn't prioritize winning, so I doubt they get too upset about something they have no control over. There are the occasional exceptions like Keller, Reynolds and Hayes but the Pirates are generally a team of young players trying to establish themselves in MLB before moving on and older players trying to hang on or get a chance no one else would give them to revive their careers.

The players see what we see and to even a much greater degree. They see the lack of significant roster improvements and they see the impoverished lineups while better players get an abundance of rest. I think over the course of 162 games they get accustomed to not expecting to win. They want to win of course. But they must feel like they're playing with one hand tied behind their back. They haven't won more than 2 in a row or lost more than 2 in a row since early May. So they know that when they win a game, they are likely to lose the next one. Especially when they see how Shelton runs the team with no priority on winning. I suspect the players are too accustomed to the lack of success to get upset about it.

PooperScooper ! wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:31 pm Hate to say but,Skenes gets lit up today.

Doc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:49 am

Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:42 pm

Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:15 pm Think how difficult it is for a Pirate starter who knows that he has to
pitch a shutout for a chance to win.

I feel bad for Keller because he signed an extension. Skenes and Jones likely see this as a steppingstone to a career somewhere else, as Cole did. They know the team doesn't prioritize winning, so I doubt they get too upset about something they have no control over. There are the occasional exceptions like Keller, Reynolds and Hayes but the Pirates are generally a team of young players trying to establish themselves in MLB before moving on and older players trying to hang on or get a chance no one else would give them to revive their careers.

The players see what we see and to even a much greater degree. They see the lack of significant roster improvements and they see the impoverished lineups while better players get an abundance of rest. I think over the course of 162 games they get accustomed to not expecting to win. They want to win of course. But they must feel like they're playing with one hand tied behind their back. They haven't won more than 2 in a row or lost more than 2 in a row since early May. So they know that when they win a game, they are likely to lose the next one. Especially when they see how Shelton runs the team with no priority on winning. I suspect the players are too accustomed to the lack of success to get upset about it.

This is exactly how I see it, too. Not only our players, but the others around baseball. No player worth his salt would want to come here because, in the end, they're all driven to compete and to win. Those goals are foreign in this organization.

Carolina Bucco wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:11 am The whole "resting" think drives me nuts.

The Pirates were off last Monday.

Cutch and Gonzalez were given the day off to "rest" last Thursday.

The Pirates were off again this past Thursday.

So in a span of 10 days, Cutch and GOnzalez had 3 days to "rest."

So OF COURSE they needed another day off today after playing TWO WHOLE GAMES IN A ROW !!!

Honestly it's just idiotic.

Your best players should get 1 day off every 2 weeks ... because they also get team off-days built in as well.

Drives me crazy ...

Surgnbuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:07 pm Damn, I hope a bunch of you stayed away from knives and guns yesterday.

Wildwoodcoach wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:16 pm

Surgnbuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:07 pm Damn, I hope a bunch of you stayed away from knives and guns yesterday.

Surg, Carol broke up my profanity laced tirade by asking me if you were at the game?
I said "hopefully, he deserves to suffer like the rest of us"