OnlyBucs

Salaries are absurd. Period. You can cite owner profits all you want. But they keep raising prices and generating more revenue to pay the ever increasing salaries. The ground zero here is salaries. If salaries aren't out of sight, owners can still make a nice profit without continually gouging fans. There's no way to rationally defend these salaries. Especially if we're supposed to believe Pirates mgt that profits are put back into the organization. Controlling salaries is the #1 thing needed to restore financial sanity to the game.

795459484F5E49090A3B0 wrote: Salaries are absurd. Period. You can cite owner profits all you want. But they keep raising prices and generating more revenue to pay the ever increasing salaries. The ground zero here is salaries. If salaries aren't out of sight, owners can still make a nice profit without continually gouging fans. There's no way to rationally defend these salaries. Especially if we're supposed to believe Pirates mgt that profits are put back into the organization. Controlling salaries is the #1 thing needed to restore financial sanity to the game.


I don't know. This system seems to be failing because the luxury tax is acting like a cap, but there's no floor to prohibit 10-15 teams from tanking. Payroll to revenue ratios indicate record profits for the billionaire owners making their billions in taxpayer funded stadiums. Where else is a higher comparative percentage of a larger revenue pie going?



I'm not sure salaries are what is driving ticket prices. Once the big media money started pouring into revenues, the owners lost that excuse with me. They're pricing the way they do because they can.

7E535E4F48594E0E0D3C0 wrote: Salaries are absurd. Period. You can cite owner profits all you want. But they keep raising prices and generating more revenue to pay the ever increasing salaries. The ground zero here is salaries. If salaries aren't out of sight, owners can still make a nice profit without continually gouging fans. There's no way to rationally defend these salaries. Especially if we're supposed to believe Pirates mgt that profits are put back into the organization. Controlling salaries is the #1 thing needed to restore financial sanity to the game.


The owners are raising ticket prices and generating more revenue. but most of that additional revenue isn't going to player salaries. Otherwise the percentage in BenM's graph wouldn't be going down.

6C485C54513D0 wrote: Actually it's much more likely he's going to KC because they won't lose a draft pick (unlike any other team that could sign him) rather than anything to do with Mike's "comfort"-whatever that might be.


I think this is 80% of it. Losing a draft pick is a pretty big deal.

220F02131405125251600 wrote: Salaries are absurd. Period. You can cite owner profits all you want. But they keep raising prices and generating more revenue to pay the ever increasing salaries. The ground zero here is salaries. If salaries aren't out of sight, owners can still make a nice profit without continually gouging fans. There's no way to rationally defend these salaries. Especially if we're supposed to believe Pirates mgt that profits are put back into the organization. Controlling salaries is the #1 thing needed to restore financial sanity to the game.


Maybe. But if the owners think they can do it unilaterally they will be proven wrong. The worst thing that can happen to baseball is another strike. And I don’t like where this is going....

292E38303E296E621B3C363A3237753834365B0 wrote: Salaries are absurd. Period. You can cite owner profits all you want. But they keep raising prices and generating more revenue to pay the ever increasing salaries. The ground zero here is salaries. If salaries aren't out of sight, owners can still make a nice profit without continually gouging fans. There's no way to rationally defend these salaries. Especially if we're supposed to believe Pirates mgt that profits are put back into the organization. Controlling salaries is the #1 thing needed to restore financial sanity to the game.


Maybe.  But if the owners think they can do it unilaterally they will be proven wrong. The worst thing that can happen to baseball is another strike.  And I don’t like where this is going....




Do you think the Owners got together and decided to do this? Even if it was just a few?



I just doubt there was a spoken word to lower salaries. A lot of teams are rebuilding this year. The big spenders already spent their money, or have young players in key positions. The Yankees have four second year/rookies in their line up. That's like $2.25 million for four out of the eight positions. Why would they sign a big free agent if they feel their rookies can do it?

This is an utter failure by the Pirates. They always cry poor when it comes to free agency and sign accordingly. If there was an offseason that they could have gotten some nice free agents at bargain basement prices was this year. Preaching competitive, but starting Moran and not signing a 30-homer guy in Moose. Lance Lynn would look nice in the rotation considering outside Nova, no one in the rotation has pitched two seasons in the majors. Very disappointing.

262D25292C2D367375023B232A2D2D6C212D420 wrote: Salaries are absurd. Period. You can cite owner profits all you want. But they keep raising prices and generating more revenue to pay the ever increasing salaries. The ground zero here is salaries. If salaries aren't out of sight, owners can still make a nice profit without continually gouging fans. There's no way to rationally defend these salaries. Especially if we're supposed to believe Pirates mgt that profits are put back into the organization. Controlling salaries is the #1 thing needed to restore financial sanity to the game.


Maybe.  But if the owners think they can do it unilaterally they will be proven wrong. The worst thing that can happen to baseball is another strike.  And I don’t like where this is going....




Do you think the Owners got together and decided to do this?  Even if it was just a few? 



I just doubt there was a spoken word to lower salaries. A lot of teams are rebuilding this year. The big spenders already spent their money, or have young players in key positions. The Yankees have four second year/rookies in their line up. That's like $2.25 million for four out of the eight positions. Why would they sign a big free agent if they feel their rookies can do it?


No I can’t believe the owners would do that. I would think the legal risk to there cash-cow Monopoly would prevent anything like that. A weird year for sure, but I tend to think next year will see huge dollars involved.



This was a year tge Pirates could have participated. Add one quality starter and maybe the Pirates would surprise....

Next year is Machado and Harper.



It will be interesting if those two are traded this year so there is some return.

6C676F6366677C393F487169606767266B67080 wrote: Next year is Machado and Harper.



It will be interesting if those two are traded this year so there is some return. 


I'd expect the Nationals to be in the playoffs so Harper will stay.