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Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:48 am
by SteadyFreddy
5C6E62627644676E6366696E0F0 wrote: But (and sorry for stating the obvious) what's wrong with what JB Shuck has done so far?
He is just not a guy you can rely on and play 4 or 5 days a week.  He will get exposed for what he really is and that is a career Minor League Free agent who is a career .240 hitter with not even 10 homeruns in his Major League career. There is a reason this is his 5th or 6th team he has played for in the last 5 or 6 years and that reason is he stinks and isn’t very good. I know they don’t want to move Bell off of first but I’d rather them do that and play him in RF, play Melky in LF, and play Moran at 1st rather then plsy a slow footed Moran in a big left field at PNC Park. Having Shuck’s bat in the lineup everyday or for the majority of the time will leave another huge hole in an already depleted lineup. There are better options that make more sense that should be considered instead of playing Shuck mostly everyday.

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:01 pm
by SammyKhalifa
694E5F5B5E437C485F5E5E433A0 wrote: But (and sorry for stating the obvious) what's wrong with what JB Shuck has done so far?
He is just not a guy you can rely on and play 4 or 5 days a week.  He will get exposed for what he really is and that is a career Minor League Free agent who is a career .240 hitter with not even 10 homeruns in his Major League career. There is a reason this is his 5th or 6th team he has played for in the last 5 or 6 years and that reason is he stinks and isn’t very good. I know they don’t want to move Bell off of first but I’d rather them do that and play him in RF, play Melky in LF,  and play Moran at 1st rather then plsy a slow footed Moran in a big left field at PNC Park. Having Shuck’s bat in the lineup everyday or for the majority of the time will leave another huge hole in an already depleted lineup. There are better options that make more sense that should be considered instead of playing Shuck mostly everyday.
I don't think that he's any long term answer no. He's done just fine filling in in a place nobody expected him to be though.

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:10 pm
by fjk090852-7
Just guessing,but the Pirates are going to keep a close eye on the waiver wire over the next week or two while Dickerson is out. I don’t think Martin is ready to play at the MLB level, Shuck does not appear to be an everyday outfielder. Some team due to a roster crunch will have to designate a player with MLB experience, and the Pirates will take a flyer on him.

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:21 pm
by mouse
Kivlehan?

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:32 pm
by fjk090852-7
383A202630550 wrote: Kivlehan?
I don’t think it will be him, I am guessing someone with a little more MLB experience, but does not fit into a teams current plans. An example would be a guy like Gary Redus who the Bucs picked up later in his career, but did have some success in the Majors.

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:39 pm
by PMike
5C7B6A6E6B76497D6A6B6B760F0 wrote: But (and sorry for stating the obvious) what's wrong with what JB Shuck has done so far?
He is just not a guy you can rely on and play 4 or 5 days a week.  He will get exposed for what he really is and that is a career Minor League Free agent who is a career .240 hitter with not even 10 homeruns in his Major League career. There is a reason this is his 5th or 6th team he has played for in the last 5 or 6 years and that reason is he stinks and isn’t very good. I know they don’t want to move Bell off of first but I’d rather them do that and play him in RF, play Melky in LF,  and play Moran at 1st rather then plsy a slow footed Moran in a big left field at PNC Park. Having Shuck’s bat in the lineup everyday or for the majority of the time will leave another huge hole in an already depleted lineup. There are better options that make more sense that should be considered instead of playing Shuck mostly everyday.


Wait. So because Shuck is so terrible, it is better for the Pirates to play Bell in RF. Then Cabrera in LF (!!!!), and Moran at 1B. And one could consider Moran in LF...but not really because he is too slow....but Cabrera is fast enough there?



I'm surprised Shuck is even allowed in the stadium.

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:48 pm
by dmetz
You have to play Melky in RF.   Reyes would be better suited for LF or Shuck (I would call up Martin today and get Shuck out of here).  None of these guys in the conversation have nearly the bats to justify killing the outfield defensively by moving Melky to LF and Bell to RF.   



Be steady.  Prevent runs.  rely on strengths (pitching) and support that strength with the best defense you can reasonably field.    Infield defense is already suspect, don't kill the OF too. 

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:17 pm
by fjk090852-7
202921303E440 wrote: You have to play Melky in RF.   Reyes would be better suited for LF or Shuck (I would call up Martin today and get Shuck out of here).  None of these guys in the conversation have nearly the bats to justify killing the outfield defensively by moving Melky to LF and Bell to RF.   



Be steady.  Prevent runs.  rely on strengths (pitching) and support that strength with the best defense you can reasonably field.    Infield defense is already suspect, don't kill the OF too. 
Why put Moran or Newman in the outfield? They have the money, get a veteran outfielder, send Brault to Indy, play Melky in right, and the new player in left. Take advantage of the starting pitchers that you have, and get an outfielder in order that the season does not go into the dumper before the regular outfielders return from the Injured reserve list.

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:26 pm
by notes34
303C3D666F666E63647B61560 wrote: You have to play Melky in RF.   Reyes would be better suited for LF or Shuck (I would call up Martin today and get Shuck out of here).  None of these guys in the conversation have nearly the bats to justify killing the outfield defensively by moving Melky to LF and Bell to RF.   



Be steady.  Prevent runs.  rely on strengths (pitching) and support that strength with the best defense you can reasonably field.    Infield defense is already suspect, don't kill the OF too. 
Why put Moran or Newman in the outfield? They have the money, get a veteran outfielder, send Brault to Indy, play Melky in right, and the new player in left. Take advantage of the starting pitchers that you have, and get an outfielder in order that the season  does not go into the dumper before the regular outfielders return from the Injured reserve list.
Melky has to stay in RF and he will be ok. He is at least a decent hitter. Reyes and Shuck play LF. That's all you're going to get. The season was in the dumper before it started. I can't even fathom Moran trying to cover any OF position. Is he the slowest player in MLB?

Dickerson injured, could miss a month, J. Martin called up

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:09 pm
by dmetz
535F5E050C050D00071802350 wrote: You have to play Melky in RF.   Reyes would be better suited for LF or Shuck (I would call up Martin today and get Shuck out of here).  None of these guys in the conversation have nearly the bats to justify killing the outfield defensively by moving Melky to LF and Bell to RF.   



Be steady.  Prevent runs.  rely on strengths (pitching) and support that strength with the best defense you can reasonably field.    Infield defense is already suspect, don't kill the OF too. 
Why put Moran or Newman in the outfield? They have the money, get a veteran outfielder, send Brault to Indy, play Melky in right, and the new player in left. Take advantage of the starting pitchers that you have, and get an outfielder in order that the season  does not go into the dumper before the regular outfielders return from the Injured reserve list.




Newman could probably do it, but why would you?  What's he going to hit to make that worthwhile?   



I'm not opposed to throwing anyone into RF in a pinch, but you cannot put Moran or Melky in LF at PNC.   To me, you're spotting at least a hit or two per game doing that.    Both are just OK hitters, nothing to write home about, so I don't see the point in it. in my opinion, that's a negative run move. It's costs easily more than we gain.



Not to mention the fact that Melky has effectively been a replacement level player for couple years now, and that's around what I expect from him playing RF let alone left field