66585D55465E5E5575504754310 wrote: There has been a proposed plan for 3 ten team divisions if baseball resumes this year. This could be the beginning of some type of realignment in the future. I have taken a shot of setting up six divisions with the current 30 teams. It is a little difficult due to the location of some of the teams.
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
You mean from the current Quad A they've been playing?
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297F697D726878737E695B7C767A727735781B0 wrote: There has been a proposed plan for 3 ten team divisions if baseball resumes this year. This could be the beginning of some type of realignment in the future. I have taken a shot of setting up six divisions with the current 30 teams. It is a little difficult due to the location of some of the teams.
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
Maybe they'll move the fences in and out- and the pitching mound up and down- based on a team's payroll. That might gives a chance. For fourth.
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
Maybe they'll move the fences in and out- and the pitching mound up and down- based on a team's payroll. That might gives a chance. For fourth.
An Idea For Realignment
What we need is a realignment of owners, so tht BOB could be contracted out of baseball. Then everything would be OK.
An Idea For Realignment
Have one league. Top 4 teams get a bye, and seeded 1-4. Next 16 teams are seeded 5-20, and play one game WC, 5 vs 20, 6 vs 19, etc. Re-seed, and one more WC game.
1 vs worst seed, 2 vs second worst, etc. Play it out like they do the LCS and WS from there.
The teams that don't make the playoffs, don't share in the playoff money.
More teams make the playoffs, yet the playoffs actually are now shorter, for not having an LDS round. There are already two WC nights, one night after the other, and another night off after that. Have one day in between first and second WC games for travels reasons/rain out. After 2nd WC game, they already know they are traveling, so they don't need an extra night off.
You reward the top teams, you give a shot to a lot of teams, you can still say stuff like MLB already does, you know, "It's Sept 15th, and only the Pirates and Orioles are eliminated".
This playoff plan is so brilliant, I don't even need to figure out how to do the regular season schedule. One of you are smart enough to figure out those details. That part is beneath me.
1 vs worst seed, 2 vs second worst, etc. Play it out like they do the LCS and WS from there.
The teams that don't make the playoffs, don't share in the playoff money.
More teams make the playoffs, yet the playoffs actually are now shorter, for not having an LDS round. There are already two WC nights, one night after the other, and another night off after that. Have one day in between first and second WC games for travels reasons/rain out. After 2nd WC game, they already know they are traveling, so they don't need an extra night off.
You reward the top teams, you give a shot to a lot of teams, you can still say stuff like MLB already does, you know, "It's Sept 15th, and only the Pirates and Orioles are eliminated".
This playoff plan is so brilliant, I don't even need to figure out how to do the regular season schedule. One of you are smart enough to figure out those details. That part is beneath me.
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GermanTownship
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My idea of permanent realignment with the Pirates would be with the Phillies, Orioles, Indians, and Reds. All are within easy driving distance. Also, either eliminate the dh or allow it. Baseball is the only major sports that has different rules. Final change would be the computer calling balls and strikes.
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I might agree with your conclusion, but not the reasoning. Pittsburgh to Cincinnati's not all that "easy," let alone Philadelphia to Cincinnati. This comes from a guy who averages 200 mpd on work days.
Reality is that the Phillies away from the NYC market is very unlikely to happen.
Reality is that the Phillies away from the NYC market is very unlikely to happen.
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GreenWeenie
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Alignment that's more fair & allows us to be competitive:
Pirates
Altoona Curve
Indianapolis Indians
Firsts of Wheeling (Cha CHING!)
Washington (Wild Things, not the Nats)
Just to rub it in- Tampa Bay Rays
Pirates
Altoona Curve
Indianapolis Indians
Firsts of Wheeling (Cha CHING!)
Washington (Wild Things, not the Nats)
Just to rub it in- Tampa Bay Rays
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WildwoodDave
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1A4C5A4E415B4B404D5A684F45494144064B280 wrote: There has been a proposed plan for 3 ten team divisions if baseball resumes this year. This could be the beginning of some type of realignment in the future. I have taken a shot of setting up six divisions with the current 30 teams. It is a little difficult due to the location of some of the teams.
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
You mean from the current Quad A they've been playing?
Regardless of the level of play- Bob won't have to worry about social distancing for the fans- there will be plenty of empty seats.
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
You mean from the current Quad A they've been playing?
Regardless of the level of play- Bob won't have to worry about social distancing for the fans- there will be plenty of empty seats.
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2drfischer@gmail.c
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003E3B332038383313362132570 wrote: There has been a proposed plan for 3 ten team divisions if baseball resumes this year. This could be the beginning of some type of realignment in the future. I have taken a shot of setting up six divisions with the current 30 teams. It is a little difficult due to the location of some of the teams.
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
You mean from the current Quad A they've been playing?
Regardless of the level of play- Bob won't have to worry about social distancing for the fans- there will be plenty of empty seats.
;D
Two Central Divisions: cardinals, White Sox, Cubs, Brewers, Royals
Other Central: Indians, Reds, Tigers, Twins, Bucs
Two East Divisions: Yanks, Mets, Red Sox, Phil’s, Jays
Other Division. Orioles, Nats, Braves , Rays , Marlins
Two West Divisions: Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Oakland , Giants
Other Division: Astros, Rangers, Rockies, DBacks , Mariners
As I said due to the location of the teams it is tough placing some teams such as Mariners, but it is fun to attempt to organize the teams into divisions in which the teams are relatively close to each other.
I broached this subject a couple of weeks back, FJ. I did so because I think MLB has already decided that they're going to realign the teams, mixing the leagues together in order to create more geographical rivalries. They've been easing in that direction since the implementation of Interleague play and perhaps the virus situation will help speed it forward.
Your alignment is interesting. Ideally, a total of 32 teams would be best to work with. (I think expansion is also in their plans, and maybe even moving a franchise or two.) That would help with creating divisions, with an equal number of teams, that would make the most sense.
There are some cities that lie in places that can create arguments. Pittsburgh is one of them. We can be placed with eastern cities or with central cities. (Toronto is like that, too.) Where the league expands to will have a lot to do with how some divisions will be set up. I also wonder if they'll separate the two teams that exist in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles?
The day of realignment is coming. I hope with all that'll be involved, MLB gets it mostly right. They'll first cater to the big markets. I just hope the smaller ones aren't pooped on completely.
Back in my younger days I wanted as little re-alignment as possible. Even a year or so ago I wanted the AL and NL teams to at least stay in their leagues. Now I don't care. MLB can group the teams in any way that they want.
I'm a little surprised that I have evolved to this position, in some ways it is because I don't even think about the Pirates having rivals anymore so I don't care where they are grouped.
Good points. I really miss the rivalries with the Phillies and Mets. Right now, I hate the Brewers the most but it just doesn't feel the same. The Cubs and Cardinals are superior to us in their abilities and desires to win that playing them seems like being shoved around by a big brother. I just want things to be equitable.
In that case, thew bucs would have to drop to Triple A
You mean from the current Quad A they've been playing?
Regardless of the level of play- Bob won't have to worry about social distancing for the fans- there will be plenty of empty seats.
;D
An Idea For Realignment
okay, I guess none of you were that smart after all to come up with a season of a 30 team league.
Every team plays each team 5 games, 3 home, 2 away, alternating seasons. That leaves 17 games to get to 162. Just like the 3-2 thing, you simply have a rotating, predictable extra game agains 17 teams. You start 1-17, next year 2-18, next year 3-19, etc. That way, you get to see the same teams at one point 17 years in a row for an extra game. Every so called "rivalry" is left intact.
In fact, my plan will actually make the rivalry games more fun, because we don't have to see the Yankees and Red Sox 18-19 times a year. Only 5 or 6, and those games for the fans will be at a major premium.
I have now solved the playoffs, the regular season, shortened the post season even though more teams compete, making for the regular season to be able to start in April.
The players get more money. The owners get more money (because of the added teams in post season). Teams are rewarded for attempting some modicum of mediocrity.
Teams that don't make the post season are punished with no additional revenue. Tanking will cost now, because of the double hit of no welfare money, and no gate receipts.
My plan might even force a terrible owner or three to sell.
When you speak of the genius of my plans, please be sure to mention my name in hushed, humbled tones.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 
Every team plays each team 5 games, 3 home, 2 away, alternating seasons. That leaves 17 games to get to 162. Just like the 3-2 thing, you simply have a rotating, predictable extra game agains 17 teams. You start 1-17, next year 2-18, next year 3-19, etc. That way, you get to see the same teams at one point 17 years in a row for an extra game. Every so called "rivalry" is left intact.
In fact, my plan will actually make the rivalry games more fun, because we don't have to see the Yankees and Red Sox 18-19 times a year. Only 5 or 6, and those games for the fans will be at a major premium.
I have now solved the playoffs, the regular season, shortened the post season even though more teams compete, making for the regular season to be able to start in April.
The players get more money. The owners get more money (because of the added teams in post season). Teams are rewarded for attempting some modicum of mediocrity.
Teams that don't make the post season are punished with no additional revenue. Tanking will cost now, because of the double hit of no welfare money, and no gate receipts.
My plan might even force a terrible owner or three to sell.
When you speak of the genius of my plans, please be sure to mention my name in hushed, humbled tones.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D