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626C6960767F6060050 wrote: Hope he has many games like the Nationals game in the immediate future for our Bucs.  Hoping for the best there.  The prize in the deal is the 22 year old pitcher, electric stuff per reports.


It's safer to say that the prize in the deal is Jacob Stallings.

Just proud to say I was in Stallings corner well before he became well respected and I will certainly miss him. Thank you for the hard work, and this memory from last season:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph8qACODpPQ

The irony of the trade, as earlier in the day the MLB site listed the longest tenured player for every team.



Stallings was the Pirates longest tenured player. Didn't even make it to the next day after the article came out.

I hate to see Jacob leave, and this caught me completely off guard. But after considering it for a few hours I think BC made a shrewd move.



We’ve been wondering where the Pirates would pick up starting pitching knowing Nutting would not spend for high end SP. Ben added a potential quality starter and added another prospect arm.



Frankly, it was smart to “monetize” Stallings now, with the GG, he turned a guy DFA just a couple years ago into helping to fill Starting pitching. And while we now have an immediate need at catcher, we are looking really deep in catchers not far down the road.



This is a very good return for Stallings and a smart move. It is not a move Neal would have made.



The Pirates may not be better today because of this trade, but it could have a material impact on the team as it turns toward competing.

I've heard the tune before.

4174636368516363686F63060 wrote: I've heard the tune before.
I don’t think so.  How often do we see the Pirates develop an unheralded player and then trade him at the top of his value?  We’re always giving something away or holding too long.



Given the Pirates calendar, the prospects in the pipeline, needs, etc…this is out of the box thinking.   

If we want the results the Oakland A's get or the Tampa Bay Rays get, we have to use their process. Players have a shelf-life. You can't hold them too long.

3532242C2235727E07202A262E2B6924282A470 wrote: I've heard the tune before.
I don’t think so.  How often do we see the Pirates develop an unheralded player and then trade him at the top of his value?  We’re always giving something away or holding too long. 



Given the Pirates calendar, the prospects in the pipeline, needs, etc…this is out of the box thinking.   


[highlight]The Pirates may not be better today because of this trade, but it could have a material impact on the team as it turns toward competing.

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I think that, very often, I have heard this tune. That dog doesn't hunt anymore, AFAIAC.

47455F594F2A0 wrote: If we want the results the Oakland A's get or the Tampa Bay Rays get, we have to use their process. Players have a shelf-life. You can't hold them too long.


Yep. Seems like we’re always trading on the wrong side of “the right time”.

744156565D6456565D5A56330 wrote: I've heard the tune before.
I don’t think so.  How often do we see the Pirates develop an unheralded player and then trade him at the top of his value?  We’re always giving something away or holding too long. 



Given the Pirates calendar, the prospects in the pipeline, needs, etc…this is out of the box thinking.   


[highlight]The Pirates may not be better today because of this trade, but it could have a material impact on the team as it turns toward competing.

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I think that, very often, I have heard this tune.  That dog doesn't hunt anymore, AFAIAC.


If it’s the right answer, it’s still the right answer despite previous failures due to poor execution. Just need good execution. Time will tell, but this looks good to me.