Clay Holmes, who was practically perfect for the first three months of the season, had an ERA of 7.00 in July, 6.75 in August, and currently 4.50 in September, taking the loss last night giving up a walk off single to the Brewers.
FWIW, not rooting against him. Just noticed he's become more of the guy we knew here with his inconsistency between being flat out dominant and confusingly unreliable.
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WildwoodDave2
The Departed
3E687E6A657F6F64697E4C6B616D6560226F0C0 wrote: Tampa has claimed Bligh Madris off waivers.
Rats! I thought he had potential. The Rays will turn him into a solid role player.
For his sake, I hope they do
Rats! I thought he had potential. The Rays will turn him into a solid role player.
For his sake, I hope they do
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WildwoodDave2
The Departed
7C3F263D2E3B2A3C7C4F0 wrote: RIP Maury Wills
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodg ... ies-at-89/
I am sure there are some who are too young to appreciate him.He
was in a class by himself.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodg ... ies-at-89/
I am sure there are some who are too young to appreciate him.He
was in a class by himself.
The Departed
37090C04170F0F042401160552600 wrote: RIP Maury Wills
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodg ... ies-at-89/
I am sure there are some who are too young to appreciate him.He
was in a class by himself.
Was watching MLB network when they passed the news on High Heat. Next segment on MLB now, they did a quickly assembled tribute and discussed how great and unique of a player he was. How he isn't in the HOF is a mystery.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodg ... ies-at-89/
I am sure there are some who are too young to appreciate him.He
was in a class by himself.
Was watching MLB network when they passed the news on High Heat. Next segment on MLB now, they did a quickly assembled tribute and discussed how great and unique of a player he was. How he isn't in the HOF is a mystery.
The Departed
735552474E4255434B200 wrote: RIP Maury Wills
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodg ... ies-at-89/
I am sure there are some who are too young to appreciate him.He
was in a class by himself.
Was watching MLB network when they passed the news on High Heat. Next segment on MLB now, they did a quickly assembled tribute and discussed how great and unique of a player he was. How he isn't in the HOF is a mystery.
I always liked him and was surprised when he left in expansion draft. Losing Wills, Clendendon and Mota in expansion draft just shows how deep the Pirate system was at the time. Of course coverage of prospects didn't exist much then so I had no idea the Bucs were just going to reload.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodg ... ies-at-89/
I am sure there are some who are too young to appreciate him.He
was in a class by himself.
Was watching MLB network when they passed the news on High Heat. Next segment on MLB now, they did a quickly assembled tribute and discussed how great and unique of a player he was. How he isn't in the HOF is a mystery.
I always liked him and was surprised when he left in expansion draft. Losing Wills, Clendendon and Mota in expansion draft just shows how deep the Pirate system was at the time. Of course coverage of prospects didn't exist much then so I had no idea the Bucs were just going to reload.
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ArnoldRothstein
The Departed
How he isn't in the HOF is a mystery.
Wills was on the 2015:Veterans Committee ballot. 16 voters, twelve votes needed to induct. Allen, Oliva, Kaat, Wills (9), and Minoso all got 8 to 11 votes. Because they keep tweaking the Veterans Committee process, most of these guys didn't appear on another ballot until last year, when Minoso, Kaat, and Oliva were inducted. Wills' vote total did plummet last year, but there's a pretty good chance that if the Vets had voted for, say, 2018 and 2021, that Allen and Wills would have been inducted before they died.
Wills was on the 2015:Veterans Committee ballot. 16 voters, twelve votes needed to induct. Allen, Oliva, Kaat, Wills (9), and Minoso all got 8 to 11 votes. Because they keep tweaking the Veterans Committee process, most of these guys didn't appear on another ballot until last year, when Minoso, Kaat, and Oliva were inducted. Wills' vote total did plummet last year, but there's a pretty good chance that if the Vets had voted for, say, 2018 and 2021, that Allen and Wills would have been inducted before they died.
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ArnoldRothstein
The Departed
Wills came to the Pirates by a fluke - the Dodgers toured Japan after the 1966 season and Wills left the tour early. Dodger ownership sent down word that he wasn't to return in 1967, and the Pirates coughed up Bob Bailey and Gene Michael for him.
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WildwoodDave2
The Departed
4F7C6061626A5C617A667D7A6B67600E0 wrote: Wills came to the Pirates by a fluke - the Dodgers toured Japan after the 1966 season and Wills left the tour early. Dodger ownership sent down word that he wasn't to return in 1967, and the Pirates coughed up Bob Bailey and Gene Michael for him.
Very good- that is correct!
Very good- that is correct!
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Bobster21
The Departed
4F71747C6F77777C5C796E7D2A180 wrote: Wills came to the Pirates by a fluke - the Dodgers toured Japan after the 1966 season and Wills left the tour early. Dodger ownership sent down word that he wasn't to return in 1967, and the Pirates coughed up Bob Bailey and Gene Michael for him.
Very good- that is correct!
Wills was 34 and past his prime when he joined the Pirates in 1967. But he did hit .302 that year. But as a corner infielder, he provided no power. In fact, Wills was primarily a singles hitter. For someone with speed, he hit very few doubles over his career. 19 was his career high. Also in that season, he was just 29 of 39 on SBs. But in 1968 he had his 4th best year for SBs with 52 (but was caught 21 times). With expansion in 1969, the Bucs got younger, and Wills was one of several veterans not protected while players like Oliver, Hebner and Robertson came up from AAA.
Very good- that is correct!
Wills was 34 and past his prime when he joined the Pirates in 1967. But he did hit .302 that year. But as a corner infielder, he provided no power. In fact, Wills was primarily a singles hitter. For someone with speed, he hit very few doubles over his career. 19 was his career high. Also in that season, he was just 29 of 39 on SBs. But in 1968 he had his 4th best year for SBs with 52 (but was caught 21 times). With expansion in 1969, the Bucs got younger, and Wills was one of several veterans not protected while players like Oliver, Hebner and Robertson came up from AAA.