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OMG!!!

Most probably haven't heard of the proposal for a "Golden At-Bat," but the basic concept is that a team could choose one at-bat in every game to use its best hitter regardless of where they are in the lineup. So if, say the New York Yankees had the bases loaded and two outs in the bottom of the ninth, they could bring Aaron Judge to the plate even if it wasn't his turn in the order. It would be a one-time replacement, not a substitution like a pinch hitter.
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Bobster wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:00 pm
OMG!!!

Most probably haven't heard of the proposal for a "Golden At-Bat," but the basic concept is that a team could choose one at-bat in every game to use its best hitter regardless of where they are in the lineup. So if, say the New York Yankees had the bases loaded and two outs in the bottom of the ninth, they could bring Aaron Judge to the plate even if it wasn't his turn in the order. It would be a one-time replacement, not a substitution like a pinch hitter.
Manfred is crazy if he wants this proposal. He should get all his owners in a room and hammer out a proposal to get baseball on an equal playing field with all teams.
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Bobster wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:00 pm
OMG!!!

Most probably haven't heard of the proposal for a "Golden At-Bat," but the basic concept is that a team could choose one at-bat in every game to use its best hitter regardless of where they are in the lineup. So if, say the New York Yankees had the bases loaded and two outs in the bottom of the ninth, they could bring Aaron Judge to the plate even if it wasn't his turn in the order. It would be a one-time replacement, not a substitution like a pinch hitter.
If MLB does this, on top of the other recent rule changes, they’ll lose me for good. This is the most ridiculous idea of them all, and that’s really saying something.
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fjk090852-7 wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:23 pm
Bobster wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:00 pm
OMG!!!

Most probably haven't heard of the proposal for a "Golden At-Bat," but the basic concept is that a team could choose one at-bat in every game to use its best hitter regardless of where they are in the lineup. So if, say the New York Yankees had the bases loaded and two outs in the bottom of the ninth, they could bring Aaron Judge to the plate even if it wasn't his turn in the order. It would be a one-time replacement, not a substitution like a pinch hitter.
Manfred is crazy if he wants this proposal. He should get all his owners in a room and hammer out a proposal to get baseball on an equal playing field with all teams.
Yes they should. The trouble is, they’re making so much money now, with the small market clubs being perfectly satisfied with the situation, that they have no intention of leveling the playing field. The most money’s made for everyone involved when the big market clubs reach the two League Championship series’ and the World Series. The best chance of that happening occurs by keeping the status quo.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season Thread

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Wow, I just read the story of the golden at bat, was going to post the link here, but I've already been beaten to it!

All these other rule changes, whether there's agreement on them or not, at least IMHO haven't made the game look like a circus.

If this rule were to be implemented, I will immediately stop watching, following, attending baseball. Which won't matter, because there is no doubt in my mind MLB baseball will become a footnote in history, going the way of "Battle of the Network Stars".
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Bobster wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:00 pm
OMG!!!

Most probably haven't heard of the proposal for a "Golden At-Bat," but the basic concept is that a team could choose one at-bat in every game to use its best hitter regardless of where they are in the lineup. So if, say the New York Yankees had the bases loaded and two outs in the bottom of the ninth, they could bring Aaron Judge to the plate even if it wasn't his turn in the order. It would be a one-time replacement, not a substitution like a pinch hitter.
this proposal doesn't go far enough. You should be allowed to use a golden bat for everyone in the lineup with the only limit that a player can only be hit for one time and a player can only hit one extra time. Think of the strategy! Maybe add timeouts too so teams could figure out how to pitch to the different golden batters. All the golden at bats will just add more gold to owners coffers. What's not to like?
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Well, the things you learn when you're up late. So if you go to the Pirates site, and look at the schedule, all the home dates have TBD for start time. HOWEVER, if you go to "mini plans" and select them, they have the starting times listed for the games already!!!

Is there anything this franchise can get right? Oh, and while I'm on the subject of "mini-plans"

My half season plan saw my store discount drop from 20 percent to 15 percent. (I believe I mentioned this before, it's almost as if Frank Coonelly was back as president, because as the Bucs improved from 2011 on for a few years, so did the drop in bennies to the loyal STH's. Kind of a "thank you suckers") Well, looking at the "perks" of having a mini plan, if you have one 7-10 games you also get a store discount. Of 15 percent. Same as the people shelling out for 41 games.

As this will be something I pass along to my season ticket rep who I'm sure already hates me and I'm probably the butt of jokes as a "whiner", I know it will never actually reach a level where someone will actually have the audacity to say, "you know, something isn't quite right here."
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Probably should put this with the Departed, but anyway, Chapman signs with the Red Sox
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Surgnbuck wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:58 am Well, the things you learn when you're up late. So if you go to the Pirates site, and look at the schedule, all the home dates have TBD for start time. HOWEVER, if you go to "mini plans" and select them, they have the starting times listed for the games already!!!

Is there anything this franchise can get right? Oh, and while I'm on the subject of "mini-plans"

My half season plan saw my store discount drop from 20 percent to 15 percent. (I believe I mentioned this before, it's almost as if Frank Coonelly was back as president, because as the Bucs improved from 2011 on for a few years, so did the drop in bennies to the loyal STH's. Kind of a "thank you suckers") Well, looking at the "perks" of having a mini plan, if you have one 7-10 games you also get a store discount. Of 15 percent. Same as the people shelling out for 41 games.

As this will be something I pass along to my season ticket rep who I'm sure already hates me and I'm probably the butt of jokes as a "whiner", I know it will never actually reach a level where someone will actually have the audacity to say, "you know, something isn't quite right here."
A couple things I'd like to comment on here, Surge. First, a few weeks back you mentioned that some posters (admittedly I'm one of them) were basically high jacking (my word, not yours) some threads with their complaints about Nutting. I understood your frustration, but what you posted above is the point we make each time we bring him into the conversation: the Pirates are a business to Nutting, whereby maximizing profit and/or minimizing losses is the first priority, and always will be. Winning baseball games, or championships, isn't the purpose of his initial and continuing investment in the franchise. Virtually every decision made by management is based on money, not winning.

Second, some would say that other clubs do what Nutting does, too. I'm certain that's true. But, at the same time, he doesn't have to do those things. He could take the high road and treat his customers much better than what you've described over the years. But he can bleed the fans, especially the STH, year after year knowing we'll keep coming back because of our love for the team and the game.

He's an oligarch who's learned during his ownership that we need his team more than he needs us.
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